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11 May 2019, 5:51 am

Tulsi Gabbard is anti war and supports Medicare for all.

Me personally, if rather pay more National insurance if it stopped people getting blown up. I'm weird like that...

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11 May 2019, 10:44 am

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so i should vote for some scoundrel to screw me over and totally disenfranchise me to deal with something way above my pay grade? so i should just fall on my sword for world peace? so that what i as a citizen needs is worthless compared to the big picture? IOW i should just die and get out of the way?

Sooner or later, we will all be screwed if we don't stop supporting politicians who keep starting war after war. You may be doing fine with the ACA, but not everyone is. What about those folks? If the Dems had actually passed a healthcare bill that included single payer, instead of kowtowing to corporate interests, everyone would be better off. The Democrats had the majority in congress, so you can't blame the Republicans.

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11 May 2019, 12:32 pm

Also, if both parties hasn't spent like 7 trillion on wars then there'd be more money for back home.

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11 May 2019, 12:51 pm

We suffered through Clown Car 2016, now we have to brace for Clown Car 2020. To hell with both sides.

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11 May 2019, 4:57 pm

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no, i blame that schmuck named joe lieberman [for siding with the GOP]. he singlehandedly prevented the democrats from going any further. i also blame the GOP for blocking ANY meaningful reforms for the better part of a century.

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11 May 2019, 5:42 pm

we wouldnt even call the election who is the lesser evil now .. its more like who is the lesser terrible .

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11 May 2019, 6:20 pm

auntblabby wrote:

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Yeah, it's all Joe Lieberman's fault. It wouldn't have anything to do with Bill Clinton, who gutted welfare, deregulated Wall Street, and shifted the Democratic Party so far to the right that, at best, they couldn't be considered any better than moderate Republicans?

Your precious Dems shoved you under the bus decades ago. Clinging to the delusion that they still represent working Americans will only get us someone worse than Trump down the road.

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11 May 2019, 7:12 pm

like srsly why do ppl who can't lead want to lead ? its like out of three hundred million us population u cant find one single person who can lead this country anymore let alone this world ... three hundred million ppl !

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11 May 2019, 7:48 pm

no bueno .

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11 May 2019, 11:02 pm

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Your precious Dems shoved you under the bus decades ago. Clinging to the delusion that they still represent working Americans will only get us someone worse than Trump down the road.

it is not digital, it is a gradient with evil on one side and good on the other, and the dems despite their many faults are not as far to the evil side as the GOPers have proven to be. politics is the art of the possible, not the optimal, we make the best choices we can within the limited range of choices we are offered. if i voted for a third party, that is going to be one vote deprived from the one party best placed to opposed the GOP. IOW, my vote will not take away any GOP votes, only democratic ones. my vote for john anderson taught me this. that was a foolish move. :oops:

the 80s were a TERRIBLE decade for me as a result of that big faker with the pompadour.

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11 May 2019, 11:28 pm

Which Democrats are promising tax cuts ?

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11 May 2019, 11:46 pm

which GOPers have any non-sham plans and procedures for democratizing our health care? answer: NONE.

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13 May 2019, 8:21 pm

if its bernie i'll vote for dems, if its biden i'll vote for trump, if its kamala i'll vote for libertarian .. while secretly supporting warren and yang .

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13 May 2019, 9:37 pm

hell's bells- if william weld ran as a democrat, i'd vote for him, as even he is still better than what we have now.

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14 May 2019, 3:13 pm

auntblabby wrote:

hell's bells- if william weld ran as a democrat, i'd vote for him, as even he is still better than what we have now.

Why not Tulsi?

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14 May 2019, 8:09 pm

of course, she's not a GD fascist GOPer so if the dems nominate her, i will vote for her.

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