America is NOT a Racist Country.

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31 May 2021, 7:25 am

It’s not a racist country. It’s a country that has racists from amongst its citizenry.

It’s a country founded on ideals which we haven’t nearly fulfilled.

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31 May 2021, 5:07 pm

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The difference between “Wokes” and Conservative and Right Wing Cancel Culture Warriors is what part of history they choose to emphasize, and what they choose to ignore. The “wokes” define historical figures and events solely by their racism or more accurately by the expanded “woke” definition of racism and mostly ignore benefits accrued from these historical figures and events. This is a radical break from the past where racism was at best explained away as a product of the times or ignored all together.

This is perhaps the biggest myth promulgated by the right. There is a simple distinction between recognising/acknowledging the contribution of historic figures without worshipping or deifying them.

We have two things i) history books to document actions of historical figures and ii) museums to display their faces/statues

The right wing want to parade and deify racist slave owners/holders and pedophile presidents who raped children they can do that in the comfort of their homes rather than stick in the faces of people who are the descendants of their victims.

But no matter what you do to “recognize” someone it is going to both deify them for some and offend others thus today’s proclivity to “cancel” them or as it used to be described “never speak of their name again”. In reaction to attempts to cancel people double down and further deify said person which leads to more violent cancellations etc etc. Right now we are so far down this rabbit hole that resistance truly does seem futile.

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31 May 2021, 5:15 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Shouldn't world nations impose sanctions (or at least sanctions on the ruling class) on India till it dissolves this disgusting caste system for good?

It has on an official level and on an unofficial level a lot of countries (and not just western ones) might need to clean house at home before being too vocal about someone else's issues.

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31 May 2021, 8:50 pm

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The violent counter-reaction seems to be people on the right wanting to keep public statues of slave owners. Many of the confederate leadership had no redeeming qualities that warrant their images being in the public eye or being exalted in song, anthems or public praise.

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02 Jun 2021, 2:16 am

America is not a racist country 81 million people supposedly voted for Biden-Harris our vice president is a person of color. Every race prospers here in the states. I didn't vote for them, but it is a headline, first woman VP is a woman of color. It is laughable anyone calls us racist we are the least racist country on earth.

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02 Jun 2021, 2:18 am

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Did you just say America is the LEAST racist country on earth?????

You have to be trolling. You have to be, because if you are serious I might actually break my computer reading such blatant lies posted unironically.

I know you're trolling, please tell me you're trolling. Please for my sanity tell me you're trolling.

Please.

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02 Jun 2021, 3:00 am

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I said the same thing on another thread and he said I'm the troll :lol:

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!	Cornflake wrote:
	. Please guys, no more trolling accusations. .

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02 Jun 2021, 9:24 am

RobZombie wrote:

America isn't even the least racist country on the American continent. :lol:

It's probably not the most racist country in the Americas either, but pretending like it's issues aren't glaring and obvious is just silly.

All of those bigots who expanded the membership of racist organizations after Obama got elected sure beg to disagree with your claims. All of those Neo-confederates still proudly flying the flag of racist traitors sure beg to disagree. I mean, many of them will mirror your claims, but that will be because they'd prefer to ignore it because they don't believe it matters.

America's problems with systemic and institutional racism don't appear to have vanished just because of Obama and Harris being elected.

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02 Jun 2021, 8:14 pm

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All of those Neo-confederates still proudly flying the flag of racist traitors sure beg to disagree.

Shucks! and 74 million Americans don't mind being associated with such fine folk when they attend Trump rallies.

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03 Jun 2021, 8:46 am

RobZombie wrote:

I totally agree with you and yes I have had the "Troll" accusation hurled at me too.
I've traveled extensively in my youth and have seen plenty of countries that are openly racist. But, hating America is very fashionable nowadays so people tend to pin all evils on America.

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04 Jun 2021, 12:44 am

Who here hates America?

I mean that's a bit extreme

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04 Jun 2021, 9:33 am

From what I have observed in reading political threads on the net for 25 years if a poster says “America is Evil”, “I hate Americans”, “America is done for” that poster is much more likely to be American. Non Americans are quite critical of America, but their criticism tends to revolve around specifics.

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04 Jun 2021, 10:10 am

cyberdad wrote:

Who here hates America?

I mean that's a bit extreme

I hate this country's foreign policy, it's sycophantic prostitution towards Israel, the crazy gun lobby blocking sensible gun control laws, the crazy religious fundamentalists who wield too much power in this country, our country's corrupt prison system, our corrupt police system, and our political system is a massive joke.

Currently America is a sinking ship. I should know since I do live in Minneapolis, which has witnessed a 112% spike in homicides as well as other dramatic spikes in rapes, muggings and car jackings. America as a country has lots of potential to be the greatest country in world history given our unique advantages of having 2 oceans separate us from enemies, as well as the greatest economy in world history post-WW2, but a combination of low IQ, greed, racism, religious fundamentalism and Zionist control of this country has made progress a lot more stifled.

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04 Jun 2021, 10:58 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:

Yeah I sometimes express this about Australia as well, but its largely venting and taking for granted I'm pretty lucky living here and not in the third world.

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04 Jun 2021, 11:00 pm

salad wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

Who here hates America?

I mean that's a bit extreme

Taking all that into account I would still 100X over rather have a Trump led America leading the world than China or an islamic state,

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