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14 Apr 2022, 7:16 pm

i look forward to sampling lab meat, or test tube steak if you will.



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14 Apr 2022, 7:47 pm

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i look forward to sampling lab meat, or test tube steak if you will.
Most cheap hot dogs and hamburgers are only a few degrees away from lab-produced steak even now. Google "pink slime".

It's scary to think that we'll be making animal meat in a lab like we made Biden-19. I just hope to be dead before that happens.



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14 Apr 2022, 8:06 pm

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I think growing meat in vitro will be the way.


I was thinking of that too. But thats farther down the road. And it might be just as costly to the environment as raising livestock.



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15 Apr 2022, 2:11 am

my unpopular opinion is that I wish every vehicle on the road today and forever was a gas guzzler and there were no electric vehicles like Teslas.I wish every full sized gasoline pickup and SUV and Van got 7 to 10 miles a gallon on the highway



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15 Apr 2022, 2:25 am

We're not an intelligent enough animal to avoid causing our own extinction.
Maybe individually, but not collectively. As a species we're more addicted to the things that are dooming us than the worst meth or heroin junkie imaginable.


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15 Apr 2022, 2:44 am

increasingly, love [warm fuzzies] is considered naive, even wrong. evil is now triumphant and has its own form of counterfeit love, called "cold pricklies."



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15 Apr 2022, 2:45 am

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We're not an intelligent enough animal to avoid causing our own extinction.
Maybe individually, but not collectively. As a species we're more addicted to the things that are dooming us than the worst meth or heroin junkie imaginable.

This may not be due to not being intelligent enough.
It is difficult for us to achieve long-term planning in the presence of internal conflicts of interest.


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15 Apr 2022, 2:54 am

my unpopular opinion is that I wish they still put 7.3 Liter Turbocharged Powerstroke V8 Diesels in new pickups and SUVS.



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15 Apr 2022, 2:56 am

SkinnedWolf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
We're not an intelligent enough animal to avoid causing our own extinction.
Maybe individually, but not collectively. As a species we're more addicted to the things that are dooming us than the worst meth or heroin junkie imaginable.

This may not be due to not being intelligent enough.
It is difficult for us to achieve long-term planning in the presence of internal conflicts of interest.


I guess I'm attributing the inability to resolve such issues to a lack of intelligence. If the zombie apocalypse was upon us we might be able to address it, but the nature of the problems we face makes it impossible to deal with it in a meaningful way.

I get it because I also struggle with anything involving long-term planning but I tend to put that in the category of things that make me less intelligent than I might be able to appear in some contexts.


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15 Apr 2022, 3:05 am

funeralxempire wrote:
SkinnedWolf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
We're not an intelligent enough animal to avoid causing our own extinction.
Maybe individually, but not collectively. As a species we're more addicted to the things that are dooming us than the worst meth or heroin junkie imaginable.

This may not be due to not being intelligent enough.
It is difficult for us to achieve long-term planning in the presence of internal conflicts of interest.


I guess I'm attributing the inability to resolve such issues to a lack of intelligence. If the zombie apocalypse was upon us we might be able to address it, but the nature of the problems we face makes it impossible to deal with it in a meaningful way.

I get it because I also struggle with anything involving long-term planning but I tend to put that in the category of things that make me less intelligent than I might be able to appear in some contexts.

I think I'm mostly thinking about things like "epidemic diseases", "climate change", "chemical pollution". There are clear short-term benefits of not considering these issues. Paying attention to these issues in advance brings negative returns.

Humanity has no shortage of think tanks to come up with viable solutions. But as a species divided on interests, our chances of implementing these programs are slim.


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15 Apr 2022, 3:13 am

SkinnedWolf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
SkinnedWolf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
We're not an intelligent enough animal to avoid causing our own extinction.
Maybe individually, but not collectively. As a species we're more addicted to the things that are dooming us than the worst meth or heroin junkie imaginable.

This may not be due to not being intelligent enough.
It is difficult for us to achieve long-term planning in the presence of internal conflicts of interest.


I guess I'm attributing the inability to resolve such issues to a lack of intelligence. If the zombie apocalypse was upon us we might be able to address it, but the nature of the problems we face makes it impossible to deal with it in a meaningful way.

I get it because I also struggle with anything involving long-term planning but I tend to put that in the category of things that make me less intelligent than I might be able to appear in some contexts.

I think I'm mostly thinking about things like "epidemic diseases", "climate change", "chemical pollution". There are clear short-term benefits of not considering these issues. Paying attention to these issues in advance brings negative returns.

Humanity has no shortage of think tanks to come up with viable solutions. But as a species divided on interests, our chances of implementing these programs are slim.


I tend to think of can it be implemented without conflicts of interest sabotaging attempts as part of viable. I agree with where you're coming from but I think I lump some of the chunks together differently.

If we can't resolve those conflicts or interest or if a plan doesn't include change the structures that cause those conflicts I'm not sure it's viable in the sense of likely to be adopted and put into practice, even if it works on a theoretical level.

But some of my argument might be semantics.


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15 Apr 2022, 3:16 am

high frame rate televisions [which can be derezzed for traditionalist sticks-in-the-mud] should be the norm.



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15 Apr 2022, 3:21 am

My controversial belief that that I wish they still made the Toyota T100 pickup.



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15 Apr 2022, 3:22 am

i wish they still made breaded BBQ chicken at KFC



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15 Apr 2022, 4:31 am

auntblabby wrote:
i wish they still made breaded BBQ chicken at KFC

that sounds kind of good actually.I wish that Jesus was fine with Christians having many wives.



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15 Apr 2022, 6:59 am

i wish a big ol' planet-obliterating asteroid would come along and put this dark world out of its misery.