911 issue: I wonder, what do majority of American ppl

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Hmm maybe... Eithey way it doesn't matter.. im not too humbled about what the majority thinks to be honest, though I do wish they would wake up from their sheep sleep

OK, I don't care about the majority either. But don't invoke the majority with an appeal to popularity if such a claim is false, and then try to pretend you don't care. That pretty much just makes you look like a complete douchebag.

I was wrong.. ok? happy?

Actually I'm a bit sleepy. I have to get up early tomorrow, and I need to do a load of laundry too.

cant be pleased you just like name-calling

Not always, but in this case yes.

Yet you do understand that by implying that the vast majority of people are in consensus with you that you also are affected? From my experience, most people align themselves with what is on television or broadcast by the major media outlets. Memetic propagation or replication then begins and that is generally how people form consensus in my opinion. I also find it very probable that even though, from what ive heard, censorship was supposed to be abolished in the early 20th century, that major media is highly censored. It seems that anything that does not fit with the status quo is swiftly dismissed. In regards to the status I am referencing oil, war, etc. We have other energy options available now, lets use them. Lets bring our military home so they do not have to murder on the behalf of a war that was instigated under false pretenses.

I don't watch TV, and I've been accused of holding non-mainstream views simply for the sake of not going along. Yes, of course I am affected by those around me. Humans are social animals.


"Highly censored" is probably an exaggeration. They do report all the scandals and criticize the government. Probably the main problem is that media is seen as a public institution and believed to be responsible fro being "nonpartial."


Sometimes. I've bought into conspiracy theories at times in my life. But when push came to shove, I had to admit that the data available does not support such theories.


Well, agreed, but none of those are exactly fringe views.

Reuters
August 27, 2008
WASHINGTON: Three U.S. soldiers killed four handcuffed and blindfolded Iraqi prisoners with pistol shots on the bank of a Baghdad canal last year, the New York Times reported on Wednesday.
Sergeant First Class Joseph P. Mayo, the platoon sergeant, and Sergeant Michael P. Leahy Jr., Company D’s senior medic and an acting squad leader, made sworn statements in January to Army investigators in Schweinfurt, Germany probing the incident, the newspaper reported on its website.
The men each described killing one of the Iraqi detainees, as directed by First Sergeant John E. Hatley, according to the statements. Hatley shot two other detainees with a pistol in the back of the head, Mayo and Leahy told investigators, according to the NYT.
U.S. soldiers cannot harm enemy combatants once they are disarmed and in custody, the NYT said.
A spokesman for the U.S. Army in Europe declined to comment, saying he could not speculate on any future legal action.


http://www.infowars.com/?p=4179

most of the media is NOT non-partial.. in fact Fox news is a joke.. all they do is represent an opinion, they bring people on the show to blast them and try to debunk them, and they distort news stories.. proof.. VV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo
And also, they play the cat and mouse game which the Illuminati is good at.. if you mix truth in with lies then it makes for a better lie, and that's why they critique the government.. there needs to be a level of credibility acceptable to the sheeple who watch it..




That's not a surprise..

It's kind of hard to gain evidence for truth surrounding a well protected lie.. all you will find are lies that support the Big Lie.. you must have a sense of lie detectory

I saw a good video of this anchor, right before he goes on air he's all "We're just actors, we aint got nothing but s**t!.. good morning and this is.. etc.." it was funny..

No, it's not, but they typically are not permitted to openly express opinions, eg CNN will never say "this government policy should not be adopted" and most of the time neither will Fox.


Yeah that right there was one of the major reasons for me abandoning conspiracism. Anything that contradicts you can simply be dismissed as propaganda put out by the evil conspirators. Not a very intellectually honest way of viewing the world, though it is easy.

Oh don't worry, I don't view the whole world that way, really.. don't tell me about my views because you don't grasp them..

There is nothing stupid about believing something that goes against the word of authority.. in fact it requires a lot more guts, and it's hard to keep up with people since everyone seems to dogpile but who cares?.. I cant stop believing temporarily because someone called me stupid like a third grader for believing something.. and no, it is not an easy way to view the world.. I've cut a lot of things that I like out of my life.
buying into things that the government say is a folly way of living.. they lie and lie and lie.. so why should i not think that they're lieing when my instincts tell me that they are. . that is foolish and makes me feel stupid for buying into such things.. im no sheep!

The vaguely narcissistic "I'm special" that permeates the language of the fringe believer is quite commonplace among believers in this sort of stuff. That it figures so prominently points toward an ego issue that these beliefs satisfy. "Conspiracy theorists" as they are called invite parallels with various eccentric disorders, particularly the schizophrenic spectrum disorders. Whether or not they are right...who knows? But the thinking frequently displays pathological features, varying degrees of paranoid narcissism being the most common, but they seem to run the gamut all the way to StPD with little discontinuity. Also worthy of note is the how easily it is to try to discredit them by making them look crazy.

I think a narcissist wouldn't care if 911 was an inside job because he/she would be too wrapped up in their own lives.
Do you realize that the US is committing genocide in Afghanistan? It's been going on for a while. I guess Fox news doesn't tell you how Uranium affects human health. Oh, but I forgot...The US government said that uranium is completely safe and that is why they continue dropping it on their land. http://www.afghanistanafterdemocracy.com/page9.html

Don't believe everything the TV tells you.

Of course experts have published technical analyses of 9/11 more or less supporting that the events were as reported in the popular media but it does strike one that the events dovetailed so neatly with the motivations of the Bush administration no matter how technically convincing the analyses may be. And the consistent politicalization and outright negation of the truth in subsequent statements of the government to influence policy is rather predudicial towards conspiritorial suppositions.

Oh?.. well that about sums you up in a nutshell dont it?