The end of Obamacare?

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What is the span of time being used for this "day" mentioned in the Bible. Are we talking an Earth day, a Galactic Day what? I am pointing out that the Bible says it was 6 days, but it does not say the span of time that makes up a day.

Oh ok well I dunno what kind of time system they used back then. But you know how some people are like "There's no evidence that the world was created in 6 days!"? Well it's not even clear whether the Bible is meant to be taken literally or contextually or how they counted time back then, but it makes more sense to me taken contextually. Nevertheless, I'm not fond of the indoctrinating approach that religion takes which is the biggest flaw it has as a system. I don't really trip out over the details of the bible which militant atheists tend to do.

I know you are a lot more rational than some atheists here. Anyways, my point is the Bible could literally be correct and the Earth have been created in more than 6 modern Earth days of 24 hrs. We don't know how long a day for God is at the time.

Also even the length of days on Earth is relative because Earth used to have 22 hour days.

A problem I have accepting fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible is that there is so much evidence of so many different types that falsifies that interpretation. There are many different methods used to test the age of the earth, and even more different independent lines of evidence that all clearly show evolution happens way beyond any reasonable doubt.

My point is that if fundies are so clearly wrong about something like evolution that has so much physical evidence that anyone can easily check for themselves, how can I possibly trust their opinion on spiritual matters that are not so easily checked?

And if an answer is that the evidence is false, or that one can interpret it differently, well, if it is false that makes God a trickster. Why would He lie to us in His creation if our eternal souls are at stake, so if we use the senses and reason He gave us we will burn in Hell forever? As for interpreting it differently, the nested hierarchies shown by many different types of data are both expected and explained by evolution but do not make sense if each kind was created separately. That these nested hierarchies of different types of data match and produce the same tree of life is yet more evidence.

Put yourself in my shoes for a moment. Okay, maybe you don't know about or accept the evidence for evolution. Imagine though you are talking to someone who seems rational until they start blathering about how evil it is to teach that the earth isn't flat, and flat earth should be given equal time in public school science classrooms. That is EXACTLY how crazy this situation is in America here in the 21st century.

If they had any sense they'd pause when noting the similarity between the biblical myths and older babylonian myths. But they have no sense so it's entirely moot.

They essentially want ancient babylonian mythology, as reinvented by long dead bronze age jews, taught as science in the 21st century.

Good riddence to bad rubbish! Did anyone with a common sense of a box of rocks thought we would be getting FREE health care? Funny that if you want "free" health care, you have to pay a $2,000 penalty.
So can't wait to vote Lord Obamort out of the White House in 2012. As far as his health care bullcrap, he can shove it up his arse.

So Americans should be forced to pay $2000 for "free" health care? Even if the SCOTUS rules it legit, the Blue Jackets have a better chance of winning the Stanley Cup this year before Obamort's bill ever gets off the ground.
We the American people will see to it.

Voting for someone else is the most reasonable way to hope to get it changed. The democrats have the opportunity to jettison the mandate before it hits the Supreme Court and modify the plan to keep it in effect until the next election. But, consider this, the most likely nominee at present, Mitt Romney supported, in general, the same kind of health care reform, with a mandate in the state he governed. Would you support him, if he gets the nomination.

I hadn't really followed Romney lately to be honest. But if he wants to bring in Universial Health Care, I will NEVER support him.
I'll be damned if I vote for a socialist pig no matter whether he is Democrat or Republican.

Romney wasn't for Universal Health Care, he supported a mandate instead of a public option for his state. Obama was against the mandate when it was proposed in Massachusetts. If he had a choice he would of had a public option in the current law, but the democrats couldn't settle on it. If Romney comes into office, it is possible that he will try to expand, modify, or try to repeal the current plan, if still, in effect. If the mandate is gone, it will be harder to repeal because many people would lose their coverage; the biggest complaint was the mandate.

Speaking of Socialism, do you think all of the tax cuts and bailouts have been good or bad for the country since they were done with borrowed money. Some people think that socialism is when you take from one group of people and give it to another. Is that what happens when we borrow money to give tax breaks and bailouts, that future generations may have to pay for.

Those bailouts should never of happen. The govt was dumb enough to reward businesses for screwing up big time.
One thing I learned is govt is not here to help you and if they do things get much worse. Hurricane Katrina proved that right off the bat.

The only thing that Hurricane Katrina proved was that if the Republicans in power deliberately try to hobble the government, they will succeed.

When you find Elvis, tell him I said hello.

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Whose administration was more conservative, Clinton or George W. Bush?

I understand you belong to the Tea Party. Glenn Beck supports the Tea Party and thinks the Republicans sold the American Public out when they were in control.

With the Clinton Administration we had Welfare Reform and a Surplus.

What conservative measures were implemented during the Bush administration?

I have to agree with Beck on this one.

I would say that fiscally Clinton was more conservative but but Bush was more Conservative when it came to everyting else.
-JAke

Beck also states that Reagan was not a real Republican; only in limited ways.

Whose administration do you think was more fiscally conservative Reagan or Clinton?