What's the political climate like in the UK right now?

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John Bercow (ORDAH! ORDAH!) is amazing. We need him in our house to do that to the Democratic caucus. C-SPAN would have higher ratings than MSNBC and CNN because of him (if they don't already). I would also love to see him take AOC over his knee and spank her.

Bercow is the perfect person for it really. He absolutely loves the theatre of it all, he has an encyclopedic knowledge of politics and the procedures of Parliament and he seems to truly enjoy the position he has in between the parties and will happily challenge his own party and ruffle feathers.

He has suggested he will likely step down later this year so will be very interesting to see who gets it. Betty Boothroyd before him was very good but hardly exciting, and when Lindsay Hoyle does it now and again it simply doesn't compare.

The speaker has a huge amount of power (much of the big power is never used though), though they have to give up representing their party which many wouldn't want

I like Hoyle. Think he'd be a worth successor. Certainly much better than Michael Martin.

Outside of the current deputies and the chairman of the Procedure Committee, the biggest names going round are Harriet Harman and Chris Bryant. I think there's no way Harman should get it as she is a former Leader of the Opposition, and Bryant also strikes me as too much of a grandee as former Shadow Leader of the House (although he has been a proper backbencher for the last three years).

I find the next Tory leadership election much more fascinating. I think Jeremy Hunt has positioned himself really well. He's gained credibility with the Eurosceptic wing (and by extension the party at large) while also retaining the favour of the liberal and One Nation members. Sajid Javid's tried to do the same trick but I think he's botched it, although his polling isn't far off Hunt. On the other hand, Penny Mordaunt and Michael Gove seem to be trying to do their coalition building in reverse - they already have Eurosceptic credibility so they're trying to promote the "wetter" aspects of their politics, and seem to be doing a decent job.

I don't think there's a realistic hope for anyone to their left. Amber Rudd doesn't seem interested in standing and nor do David Gauke or Greg Clark. Seems like Justine Greening is the anointed candidate from the left of the party. Rudd also seems to be acting as a form of kingmaker and can deliver 50 votes to her candidate of choice, which would probably be enough to get Greening through until quite a late stage but not the final two. Suspect at that stage there would be a stitch-up to make sure that two candidates the left found "acceptable" would make the final two (probably Hunt and Javid). If Greening made the final two then she'd be very likely to lose the runoff amongst the membership.

The right of the party has a better chance. They're roughly as powerful within parliament, but more powerful outside of it. If they were to unite behind one candidate (Raab?) then they could get them to quite a late stage and potentially the final two if only one centrist candidate attracts significant support. I think the right-wing candidate could beat Hunt or Javid in a runoff.

They are all awful. I hope the party implodes. Would be funny if Rudd won given that her corrupted brother is a Labour man, close friend of Peter Mandelson and is chairman of the 'people's vote' campaign.

What are your views on the new Brexit Party? I've noticed that the mainstream media has avoided giving them too much coverage so far so as to prevent their becoming an effective replacement for UKIP. Sounds pretty good to me; I just hope they have a candidate in my area come next general election.

Voting doesn't solve anything. Farage walked away when he was needed most saying he wanted to get away from politics, then within weeks he's on a podium in America campaigning for Donald Trump.

I think if no one at all bothered voting that would say more. We voted to leave the EU once and have been stopped, it was never an option and May has wasted billions 'preparing' for No deal. She should be arrested.

trying to decide to turn left or right while left leg and right leg tripping each other while the wheats and the shells fell all over further exacerbating itself and the world.. stream billie ellishs no1 album on spotify

An interesting article from one of the loud journalist voices behind Leaving in 2016

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/i-was-strong-brexiteer-now-we-must-swallow-our-pride-and-think-again/

He swallows the the propaganda

European Council meeting today where they decide if A50 can be extended again.

A lot of speculation around a flexible extension of 8-12 months, but we could get a short one, or we might not get one at all.

Eyes down, all to play for!

They get away with treating us like idiots because we allow them to

https://twitter.com/HaseltonMarlies/status/1115512198816780288?s=19

i think uk liberals want to rejoin the EU in the future.. they are not norway or switzerland ..and the demographics is on their side ..

It does keep the pound tho. Wiedel started with bringing back the mark , le pen might have similar intention with the franc .. then uk has one of the two largest stock exchange in the world..

So it might end up being just another Great ZigZag ..

Always been the plan to stay in

https://www.altnewsmedia.net/topical-ne ... u-to-read/

Of all the conspiracy theories out there that has to be one of the funniest. Its reads like a child has written it.

Why have they even bothered coming up with such comical conspiracy theories like that (for clicks probably) when it is not complex or difficult to understand why we are where we are right now.

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We have another 6 months can kicking, yay!

That Bercow is about as over-easy as a ducks egg on foreign toast. The only ones creating havoc in that house of sexist pigs are the ministers themselves who have turned against her. The only ones doing the opposing is Labour (far leftists) and the only one doing anything about it is her. Any more cross party talks and we can all foresee real assassinations which won't only be with Corbyns eyes popped out but with Soubry's head on a stick too. If rolling heads won't cease the laughter in the room I don't know what will.
So far, the rotten egg Brigades are out in force along with the likes of Caroline Lucas egging on her wretched Green counterparts and god knows who else.
No matter, when all foreign hell breaks loose, the only one singing with a pint in his hand will be that of UKIP leader Nigel Farage getting the E.U drunk over foreign land exchanges and civil Brexitmanship.
It won't be over, until we have the European elections most probably or have ourselves another general election.

Quickie Summary

-The UK and the EU have agreed a "flexible extension" of Brexit until 31 October

-European Council President Donald Tusk has urged the UK to "not waste this time" and said the extension could be terminated if a withdrawal deal is agreed

-The PM said the UK would still aim to leave the EU as soon as possible

-She has been updating MPs on the extension in the Commons

-Talks between the government and Labour to try to find a way forward are continuing