08 Aug 2007, 4:39 pm
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
well what do you say
its wrong to be gay?
I wont get into heaven because of it
I have to fallow God to be saved?
what is it
its wrong to be gay?
I wont get into heaven because of it
I have to fallow God to be saved?
what is it
he's gonna say no... it's wrong for you to have sex with men... though it's still ~~ same
why deny who you are even if you "dont" sin?
cause god says so... it's an illogical impass...
Sin is not "who you are". Don't make sin sound like an identity, so that you can excuse it away; I know of that tactic. God deliberately made everyone different, so that "who you are" would be something unique and special. But sin is evil, and not part of that created uniqueness. It's nothing but baggage, or as John Bunyon wrote in his famous "Pilgrim's Progess", one of my most cherished books, sin is "this heavy burden". In his novel, sin was a literal giant sack this guy named "Christian" had to carry on his back through his entire life. England locked up John Bunyon simply for preaching -- just as the Apostle Paul was. The world has always tried to silence Christians, through as extreme means as were available to them at the time. Even the Catholic Church tried to silence them, through threats, torture, and painful executions.
you're missing the fine point that i dont consider homosexuality as a sin... but part of people's personality
By "missing", you must mean "directly addressing". (This is probably where we keep not communicating.)
I didn't miss your point; I responded that it is wrong, and I explained in detail why it is wrong.
08 Aug 2007, 4:39 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
The world has always tried to silence Christians, through as extreme means as were available to them at the time.
Aww. You poor Christians.
Aw, you poor homosexuals.
I bet most gay people get more sh** for being gay than you've ever had for being a Christian.
Seriously doubt that.
Were you bullied in school for being Christian? Did you lose 'friends' for being Christian? Did your family not accept you for being Christian?
08 Aug 2007, 4:39 pm
08 Aug 2007, 4:40 pm
Sedaka wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
calandale wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
well what do you say
its wrong to be gay?
I wont get into heaven because of it
I have to fallow God to be saved?
what is it
its wrong to be gay?
I wont get into heaven because of it
I have to fallow God to be saved?
what is it
What raggy says is that you can live your
life in whatever despicable matter you like,
as long as you subjugate yourself to his cruel
and vindictive God.
Otherwise, you'd have to hang out with those
of us who are honorable.
wow-I'll hang with you
only in platonic friendship... mind you
I was told that my kind didn't have sex,
anyhow.
08 Aug 2007, 4:40 pm
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
The world has always tried to silence Christians, through as extreme means as were available to them at the time.
Aww. You poor Christians.
Aw, you poor homosexuals.
I bet most gay people get more sh** for being gay than you've ever had for being a Christian.
Seriously doubt that.
Were you bullied in school for being Christian? Did you lose 'friends' for being Christian? Did your family not accept you for being Christian?
Yes to all three, and I'll continue to lose people, opportunities, money, and possessions for living out my morality.
08 Aug 2007, 4:43 pm
08 Aug 2007, 4:43 pm
Sedaka wrote:
calandale wrote:
greenblue wrote:
As you stated before, how do you know for a fact that women suck better than men? lol
Because being straight one can feel better when a woman does to you than a man, that's not a fact, it's a subjective view, because you are just seeing this in one single point of view, that of a straight man.
Because being straight one can feel better when a woman does to you than a man, that's not a fact, it's a subjective view, because you are just seeing this in one single point of view, that of a straight man.
Indeed, I've rather heard the opposite.
take that seinfield show for example.... they stick with their team cause they have access to the equipment WAY more... so how can women compete in that arena
However, and spoken from my own limited
experience in such matters, knowing oneself
might actually hinder one's ability to fully
understand that someone with the same
toys might not like them used in the same
ways you do.
Caring trumps all else.
08 Aug 2007, 4:44 pm
08 Aug 2007, 4:45 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
The world has always tried to silence Christians, through as extreme means as were available to them at the time.
Aww. You poor Christians.
Aw, you poor homosexuals.
Aw, you poor humans.
08 Aug 2007, 4:49 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
The world has always tried to silence Christians, through as extreme means as were available to them at the time.
Aww. You poor Christians.
Aw, you poor homosexuals.
I bet most gay people get more sh** for being gay than you've ever had for being a Christian.
Seriously doubt that.
Were you bullied in school for being Christian? Did you lose 'friends' for being Christian? Did your family not accept you for being Christian?
Yes to all three, and I'll continue to lose people, opportunities, money, and possessions for living out my morality.
Are you so sure it was your
mere morality, and not your
personality?
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08 Aug 2007, 4:49 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
My point is of art -- there was clearly an artist behind the design of the female body.
Come off it. That's your hormones talking.
You can't really tell me that you find human
females more appealing - artistically, than
cats. Humans, of all types, are funny-looking
apes.
No, I find art in cats, birds, trees, flowers, even insects. Just proves my point even more.
these points are irrelivant unless you find animals sexually attractive
No, "art" doesn't always give me a boner.
What does sexual attraction have to do with whether something is artistic?Sedaka wrote:
as an artist myself, i am familiar with critiquing art.... plz use some sort of actual critique on the form of men/women/animals...... and relate it to why any of them is sexier/more beautiful
Trying to miss the forest for the trees, eh?
(Lose the main point through the near-sighted study of the minute details.)silly silly silly
you were claiming that the feminine form was more aesthetic (based on artistic views) than the male form
cal was contending that it was due to your hormones
you countered by providing non-sexual examples.............
you have erred logically...............
my point with art... is i doubt you were thinking past your penis (agreeing with cal) and was just fishing to see whether you had actually given it any artistic consideration
you havent
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08 Aug 2007, 4:49 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
My point is of art -- there was clearly an artist behind the design of the female body.
Come off it. That's your hormones talking.
You can't really tell me that you find human
females more appealing - artistically, than
cats. Humans, of all types, are funny-looking
apes.
No, I find art in cats, birds, trees, flowers, even insects. Just proves my point even more.
these points are irrelivant unless you find animals sexually attractive
No, "art" doesn't always give me a boner.
What does sexual attraction have to do with whether something is artistic?Sedaka wrote:
as an artist myself, i am familiar with critiquing art.... plz use some sort of actual critique on the form of men/women/animals...... and relate it to why any of them is sexier/more beautiful
Trying to miss the forest for the trees, eh?
(Lose the main point through the near-sighted study of the minute details.)silly silly silly
you were claiming that the feminine form was more aesthetic (based on artistic views) than the male form
cal was contending that it was due to your hormones
you countered by providing non-sexual examples.............
you have erred logically...............
my point with art... is i doubt you were thinking past your penis (agreeing with cal) and was just fishing to see whether you had actually given it any artistic consideration
you havent
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08 Aug 2007, 4:52 pm
08 Aug 2007, 4:55 pm
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08 Aug 2007, 4:58 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
calandale wrote:
greenblue wrote:
As you stated before, how do you know for a fact that women suck better than men? lol
Because being straight one can feel better when a woman does to you than a man, that's not a fact, it's a subjective view, because you are just seeing this in one single point of view, that of a straight man.
Because being straight one can feel better when a woman does to you than a man, that's not a fact, it's a subjective view, because you are just seeing this in one single point of view, that of a straight man.
Indeed, I've rather heard the opposite.
take that seinfield show for example.... they stick with their team cause they have access to the equipment WAY more... so how can women compete in that arena
Because God made them to match with men, hello... It's obvious, if you just open your eyes.
so how does this support your conclusions that women are better at sucking cock?
yet another point on which you shift your views at the first sign of dissention
