How Did Some Americans Become So Stupid?

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Evidence of racism, in a book from the early 19th century.

Who'd have thunk it?

Well, yeah. I would just expect more from a book that supposedly came about through divine inspiration. It’s deeply problematic on many levels and seems exactly like what it is: a badly-written book from the early 19th century. Nothing more.

When you tour any historical homes there you get a free copy of the Book of Mormon and all sorts of stories about how great it is.I just wanted to see the antiques.It is a cool old house but I had to troll them by wearing a red shirt with Arkansas on it. * cough cough Mountain meadows massacre.*
One seemed a tad off about it and wanted to know where in Arkansas I was from.Then he started lying about how they had to teach the Paiutes how to bathe and grow food.Even though I had just visited an ancient pictograph site with an old granary storage area that predated the Mormon invasion.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/lea ... e?lang=eng

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From the National Institutes of Health:

"Intelligence can be defined as the ability to think logically, to conceptualize and abstract from reality. Wisdom can be defined as the ability to grasp human nature, which is paradoxical, contradictory, and subject to continual change. These two constructs hold potential for highlighting positive and adaptive features of development in the later years. both are considered to increase with age, and both provide for life-long acquisition of knowledge. Despite these phenotypic similarities, this paper attempts to illustrate that the nature of wisdom and its function in the developmental process differs sufficiently from cognitive ability to warrant separate scrutiny. These two constructs are compared with respect to the domains of behavior they represent, the operational tasks used to assess them, and the relationship of logic and time in their development. The function of intelligence is characterized as focusing on questions of how to do and accomplish necessary life-supporting tasks; the function of wisdom Is characterized as provoking the individual to consider the consequences of his actions both to self and their effects on others. Wisdom, therefore, evokes questions of should one pursue a particular course of action."

In the Words of Forrest Gump, Fictional Character
Yet Obviously With Wisdom Gained From His Mama:

"Stupid is as Stupid Does"

Getting to the Wisdom Part, if You Have Any Wisdom At

All Now When A Leader Says He Could Shoot Someone on

5th Avenue In Broad DayLight and You Will Still Follow Him;

Get the F Out of the Way And Never Follow Him At all; Indeed, Stay As Far Away From Him as Possible...

On The Other Hands, There Are People Today in the United States, in Fact as Recently Polled, Per 68 Percent

of Republicans Who Suggest, Even if Donald J Trump is Convicted in 4 Cases of Being Indicted, Including Subverting

the Will of the American People's Rights to Vote That Should Play No Role in Him Being An Effective Leader As President

of the United States

in the

Upcoming

Election; It's True, Some

of Those Folks Have Advanced

Degrees, Stellar IQ Scores; Socio-Economic

Success, Yet Still Without a Clue That Without Democracy

With An Authoritarian Dictator Leader Their Freedom May Be Removed

In Ways They Never Even Considered Before; Don't Follow Someone Who

is Barely 'Human;' And Surely Don't Elect A Convicted Felon As Leader of Your Country.

The United States

Looks Less Than

Stupid; The United

States Looks Fully Fool Driven

To anyone, At Least With Any Real Wisdom...

Yet What Makes Us Look Even More Foolish is There is Only

A Minority of Individuals in the Country Who Are That Foolish;

Yet Those Who Stay Quiet and Sit on Their Thumbs and Don't Get Out to

Actually Vote, Using That Crucial Tool of Their American Democracy to YES

Preclude

The Potential

of An Authoritarian

Dictatorship in the United States

Are Even Literally A Bigger Problem in Overall Literal Numbers too...

This is What Happens When Ya Take What Ya Got For Granted; You May Lose it all...

Again Wisdom;

The Prized Possession
of Survival to Survive, Thrive,

And Give Away For Free If Ya
Have Any Real LoVE iN Peace At All..

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7183572/#:~:text=Intelligence%20can%20be%20defined%20as,and%20subject%20to%20continual%20change.

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I thought about getting a vanity license plate that said HOT4EBERT

Apparently, JWs had a beardless Jesus in the 50’s.

Well, I understand your viewpoint.

Having said that, even books that are supposedly divinely inspired, are going to be influenced by the writer and their biases/prejudices, which are shaped by date of birth as well as anything else.

Given its stance on race, polygamy, and the bizarre stuff about the prophets and Jesus coming to the Americas in ancient times, I think it’s a foundational text of Mormonism, not Christianity as a whole. The only Christian denomination that follows it are Mormons.

Surely, God could’ve found someone better to inspire than Joe Smith.

God is supposedly inspiring cult leaders in their religious writings even today, including the President of the Church of Latter Day Saints and the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Yeah. The JWs do a number of weird things. They say Christ was martyred on a stake, and not on a cross (as in that pic) so ...why not shave his beard off too? Lol!

I always had trouble seeing why it mattered. A stake? A cross? The end result is the same. He’s equally dead either way.

I'm disappointed we haven't seen a holy war fought over the details of the cross.

Accept the true upper-case cross!
"No, we'll never renounce our faith in a lower-case crucifix."
We can't say they haven't chosen their fate.

One of the reasons why JWs claim they have the sole Truth is because they teach that Jesus died on a stake. It’s SO petty. I don’t understand why it matters. Even as a kid, I didn’t get it.

So many denominations have similarly petty differences that mark them as the sole Truth. It’s the height of absurdity.

Let's be honest, there's one degree of difference separating JWs and mormons from mainstream christians (whether Protestant or catholic)

Only difference is their messiahs are little more recent.

Mainstream Christian religions do not practice systematic shunning (which often leads to suicide). They do not publicly discipline members who have “sinned.” There’s a huge chasm between them and mainstream Christians although I think of religion in terms of a spectrum with high control groups at one end and very liberal groups on the other. Mormons aren’t as extreme as JWs. JWs aren’t allowed blood transfusions if they need them.

Mainstream Christians aren’t required to participate in formal proselytizing.

You don’t seem to know that much about Mormons and JWs. I was raised a JW.

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I don't know much about JW's, but I always got the impression of what TP has stated, with JW's being more extreme Christians than other denominations.

Does the fine detail matter? all of the above believe in a sky god, not to mention their early movements were not into prostelysing everybody. Your JWs and mormons did not consider certain people as human beings (not my words, that of their founders and messiahs)