911 issue: I wonder, what do majority of American ppl
Magnus wrote:
I think a narcissist wouldn't care if 911 was an inside job because he/she would be too wrapped up in their own lives.
Do you realize that the US is committing genocide in Afghanistan? It's been going on for a while. I guess Fox news doesn't tell you how Uranium affects human health. Oh, but I forgot...The US government said that uranium is completely safe and that is why they continue dropping it on their land. http://www.afghanistanafterdemocracy.com/page9.html
Don't believe everything the TV tells you.
Do you realize that the US is committing genocide in Afghanistan? It's been going on for a while. I guess Fox news doesn't tell you how Uranium affects human health. Oh, but I forgot...The US government said that uranium is completely safe and that is why they continue dropping it on their land. http://www.afghanistanafterdemocracy.com/page9.html
Don't believe everything the TV tells you.
Yes... it bothers me how stupid most people are when they forget just how pointless the war is in the middle east.. sometimes i just wish i could strangle people.. but i guess i can't.
over a million people have died over there.. but of course, 9/11 wasn't an inside job, noo that would be ridiculous, because the government's morals are SO right on..
You Could Be A Conspiracy Theorist If:
- You answer questions by changing the subject.
- You are personally offended by statements made in this list.
- You assign moral responsibility for an emotionally troubling event or situation to a clearly-conceived and wholly anonymous individual, or to a group of identifiable individuals that does not include yourself.
- You believe that a powerful and secretive group plans to institute a one-world government.
- You believe that all conspiracies are linked together in one Master Plan.
- You believe that all conspiracy theories are created equal, but that your particular conspiracy theory is more equal than all the rest.
- You believe that everyone who disagrees with you is a direct agent, a paid shill, or an innocent sheeple under the control, direction, or influence of a nefarious quasi-governmental shadow agency.
- You believe that if a person, group, or government is capable of heinous acts, then they must have done them, are doing them, and/or will be doing them in the future.
- You believe that if evidence to support your claims does not exist, then it must have been suppressed, and that this suppression alone somehow validates your claims.
- You believe that important political events or economic and social trends are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public.
- You believe that only you have the insight and wisdom to realize and understand how bad things really are.
- You believe that quantity over quality is the preferred form of arguing for your claims.
- You believe that spreading your theory is more important than relationships, employment, and personal hygiene.
- You believe that suspicion alone is sufficient proof for your claims.
- You believe that 'The Matrix' is a metaphorical warning against the New World Order.
- You believe that there is no such thing as an accident, a coincidence, or a mistake when it comes to major events of a social, political, or economic nature.
- You believe that you are a victim of a conspiracy against your rights and freedoms.
- You believe that you are being monitored 24/7/365 - but on leap days (February 29), you are free!
- You can rationalize any event or condition to support your theories.
- You cite only the evidence that supports your claims; while you discredit, modify, or ignore any evidence that refutes your claims.
- You feel an irresistible urge to tell everyone about your latest conspiracy findings.
- You feel excused of any moral, political, or social responsibility for remedying whatever institutional or societal flaw that lies at the heart of the matter.
- You feel that you've accomplished nothing if you haven't slandered someone.
- You hate it more when people ignore you completely than when they argue against you.
- You ignore any evidence that is cited in official accounts.
- You ignore bona fide evidence in favor of innuendo, rumor, and slanderous gossip.
- You ignore mainstream media in favor of Internet blogs.
- You leap from an idea directly to a conclusion without first confirming any evidence.
- You question every account that does not disagree with the official account.
- You question every official account.
- You respond to criticism with personal slander and/or ostracisim ("banning") of the critic.
- You suspect everyone of being an agent-on-the-payroll of some nefarious quasi-governmental shadow agency.
- You would rather argue obtusely about what constitutes 'evidence' than actually prove your claims.
- Your best, and possibly only friend is yourself.
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greenblue wrote:
Wow, you really seem to be passioned about conspiracy theorists.
Conspiracy theorists AND religionists ... they're interchangeable.
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ShawnWilliam wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Wow, you really seem to be passioned about conspiracy theorists.
I second that.. he should write a book about them
ShawnWilliam wrote:
Ahaha!
nice pun! cause he's a bird 
#31 "You respond to criticism with personal slander and/or ostracisim ("banning") of the critic."
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Fnord wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Wow, you really seem to be passioned about conspiracy theorists.
I second that.. he should write a book about them
#31 "You respond to criticism with personal slander and/or ostracisim ("banning") of the critic."
Ahah!.. but i dont care!.. you already labelled me a long time ago
ShawnWilliam wrote:
Fnord wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Wow, you really seem to be passioned about conspiracy theorists.
I second that.. he should write a book about them
#31 "You respond to criticism with personal slander and/or ostracisim ("banning") of the critic."
Ahah!.. but i dont care!.. you already labelled me a long time ago
Nice shoes ... comfortable fit?
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The mere fact that science may not yet adequately explain an object, event, or experience does not mean the immediate explanation should automatically default to a conspiratorial, extraterrestrial, paranormal, or supernatural cause.
Magnus wrote:
I think a narcissist wouldn't care if 911 was an inside job because he/she would be too wrapped up in their own lives.
Do you realize that the US is committing genocide in Afghanistan? It's been going on for a while. I guess Fox news doesn't tell you how Uranium affects human health. Oh, but I forgot...The US government said that uranium is completely safe and that is why they continue dropping it on their land. http://www.afghanistanafterdemocracy.com/page9.html
Don't believe everything the TV tells you.
Do you realize that the US is committing genocide in Afghanistan? It's been going on for a while. I guess Fox news doesn't tell you how Uranium affects human health. Oh, but I forgot...The US government said that uranium is completely safe and that is why they continue dropping it on their land. http://www.afghanistanafterdemocracy.com/page9.html
Don't believe everything the TV tells you.
It's not "uranium", it's depleted uranium, which is composed of the comparatively stable isotope U-238 which is by and large a very low radioactivity element. I have dealt with claims of the horrors of depleted uranium elsewhere on this board. While it might not be the best idea to use it, the evidence is fairly lacking in regards to its health effects and indeed its frequent use puts our own soldiers at great risk because of their constant exposure to it (and consequently, many studies have been conducted on veterans of the Gulf War who were exposed to it). Pear reviewed journals, the US government, the WHO, the IAEA and others have largely failed to conclude that it poses a great health risk to date. And omitting the term "depleted" from your paragraph certainly doesn't help your dialectic to look neutral and evenhanded.
Don't believe everything the internet tells you. Hell, I don't even watch TV.
ShawnWilliam wrote:
:lol: Oh?.. well that about sums you up in a nutshell dont it?
Few statements I make are ever entirely serious. However, I find it abstractly interesting that people who believe in conspiracies not infrequently resemble pathological personalities, and indeed pathological personalities not infrequently tend to believe in conspiracies. Paranoia, delusions of grandeur, etc., all can be associated with thinking in terms of conspiracies. It's nothing to be ashamed of, I have paranoid tendencies. But I just find y'all's constant self righteous pontifications rather grating.
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Few statements I make are ever entirely serious. However, I find it abstractly interesting that people who believe in conspiracies not infrequently resemble pathological personalities, and indeed pathological personalities not infrequently tend to believe in conspiracies. Paranoia, delusions of grandeur, etc., all can be associated with thinking in terms of conspiracies. It's nothing to be ashamed of, I have paranoid tendencies. But I just find y'all's constant self righteous pontifications rather grating.
self righteous?.. well turn the other cheek. The only reason we become self righteous is to excercise our right to opinion, which often is attempted to be taken away from us.. I flaunt my opinions wherever I go, but my compiracy beliefs are the only ones that irritate some people
lelia wrote:
Aw, knothead, you ought to watch the movie Flight oops 93? 95? I think the title is Flight 93. I learned so much from that movie. Totally gripping.
notaparakeet: None of the muslims I knew would tell me why adoption was forbidden in Islam except to say that they believed mothers should raise their children. Yeah, nice theory. And every muslim asked me why I adopted children of another race no less!
A couple weeks ago, I finally found out. Mohammed wanted to marry his adopted son's wife, but that's plain immoral, so he didn't until he received the revelation that adoption does not really make a boy your son. Then it was okay.
And yes, I have discovered that Arabs as a group (don't know if that includes the Christian Arabs or not) are horribly horribly racist. They make the KKK look positively benign. And with the history of what muslims have done to them, I have no idea why sub-Saharan Africans become muslims. One man in Rwanda told me they were rice muslims. LOL I had heard of rice christians, but never rice muslims. I guess it works both ways.
notaparakeet: None of the muslims I knew would tell me why adoption was forbidden in Islam except to say that they believed mothers should raise their children. Yeah, nice theory. And every muslim asked me why I adopted children of another race no less!
A couple weeks ago, I finally found out. Mohammed wanted to marry his adopted son's wife, but that's plain immoral, so he didn't until he received the revelation that adoption does not really make a boy your son. Then it was okay.
And yes, I have discovered that Arabs as a group (don't know if that includes the Christian Arabs or not) are horribly horribly racist. They make the KKK look positively benign. And with the history of what muslims have done to them, I have no idea why sub-Saharan Africans become muslims. One man in Rwanda told me they were rice muslims. LOL I had heard of rice christians, but never rice muslims. I guess it works both ways.
this might interests you: http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/SKM/zeinab.htm
As an ex-muslim atheist , I can admit that I am a proud member of faithfreedom
Don't get me wrong, I find the Christianity as the most hypocrite religion created by men and I was really disappointed when I wanted it as an alternative religion (that was about 2 years ago) , it talks about god of love yet this god of love burns every non-christian and the bible God still consider humans as sinners who are going to hell by default (unless if they believe in jesus's sacrifice and reborn) because of an original sin committed by the first couple
more to the point why did the Bible god allow the subtle and deceiving serpent into the garden with a couple of totally naive and innocent beings who couldn't possibly discern deception. it's like knowingly allowing a pedophile to babysit your toddlers and then blaming and punishing the toddlers for having been molested. I think that Christians have yet to learn to discern between good and evil. they're STILL blaming the innocent toddlers ... not the evil father figure who set his naive children up to be abused by his deceptive serpent. some folks are slow learners. I couldn't follow such hypocrisy
...not to mention about the scientific errors such as age of earth and flat earth. Yet, it still far less violent than Islam.
Oh, btw 9/11 is a major day in my life ....before 9/11 I was a shiite muslim (since I was raised like that) practicing some of the shallow basics of islam such as praying and fasting but I wasn't very aware of the contexts in the Qur'aan very deeply ,after 9/11 I stared questioning the message behind my ex-religion and I gradually started to become skeptical about Islam and Quran , the more digging in its very context the more skeptical I became till I became totally non-muslim. Only after digging in the other religions , I became then total atheist.
