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06 Mar 2023, 8:22 am
06 Mar 2023, 8:34 am
06 Mar 2023, 8:49 am
06 Mar 2023, 9:08 pm
06 Mar 2023, 9:16 pm
Mikah wrote:
How it seems to escape everyone's notice that the main sources for Russian mega-casualties are Ukrainian or otherwise suspect and the same people are very quiet about their own casualties I don't know...
I still maintain that we will not know anything until the war is long over but certain unnamed folks need to prepare for a potential revelation that the casualty numbers they share with glee are not just wrong, but utterly wrong and deliberately misleading. All this and more in a typically long winded Ron Unz piece:
I still maintain that we will not know anything until the war is long over but certain unnamed folks need to prepare for a potential revelation that the casualty numbers they share with glee are not just wrong, but utterly wrong and deliberately misleading. All this and more in a typically long winded Ron Unz piece:
TL;DR
Maybe later...
You need to understand that an attacking force against a well-fortified defender is going to sustain massive casualties.
There are suggestions that the ratio of Ukrainian to Russian casualties is 1:4 or 5.
The Russian need to mobilise another 200,000 to 300,000 men indicates the severe losses in the Russian army.
The Russian death count is estimated to be over 150,000 to date.
Now, back to my youtube research.
06 Mar 2023, 9:28 pm
Mikah wrote:
magz wrote:
While the fog of war is certain and we are certainly not being given full truth from either side, I find Macgregor's estimate extremely unlikely because 1) attacking always means more losses than defending
Not always, especially in more modern conflicts with modern weaponry.
Moit.
You are like a mole in the game "WHACK-A-MOLE".
We keep on "bopping" you on the head, and you keep on popping up again.
I thought we saw the last of you, but here you are again.
A glutton for punishment.
Kudos!
For those who don't know it, Mikah and I are friends and have been for years.
"Read my lips!"
What is happening here is PLAYFUL BANTER!
Unless things have changed recently, because I have owned him badly, Mikah will confirm what I have just said.
Mikah, I REALLY do luv you, moit.
Erm, well, in a non-sexual way.
You are one of the few misguided theists I have time for.
06 Mar 2023, 9:36 pm
Mikah wrote:
Why do you think they are so reticent about Ukrainian losses?
It's from the article I just linked, which we are supposedly discussing. The paragraph in whole was:
In hindsight, Russia’s failure to win a quick, decisive victory should not have been too surprising. For example, I’d been entirely unaware that Ukraine actually had an enormous regular army, more than three times the size of Germany’s, and far larger than that of any European NATO country. Much of Ukraine’s military was fully trained to NATO standards, and including reserves and the National Guard, Ukraine deployed more than a half-million ground troops, outnumbering the attacking Russian forces by around 3-to-1, with many of its best units heavily entrenched in strong defensive positions. Under such challenging circumstances, it’s quite understandable that the Russians have required a year of heavy fighting to gain ground against the stubborn Ukrainian defenders, with the latter heavily backed by supplies and assistance from America and the rest of NATO.
magz wrote:
I don't know where you took this half a million from.
It's from the article I just linked, which we are supposedly discussing. The paragraph in whole was:
In hindsight, Russia’s failure to win a quick, decisive victory should not have been too surprising. For example, I’d been entirely unaware that Ukraine actually had an enormous regular army, more than three times the size of Germany’s, and far larger than that of any European NATO country. Much of Ukraine’s military was fully trained to NATO standards, and including reserves and the National Guard, Ukraine deployed more than a half-million ground troops, outnumbering the attacking Russian forces by around 3-to-1, with many of its best units heavily entrenched in strong defensive positions. Under such challenging circumstances, it’s quite understandable that the Russians have required a year of heavy fighting to gain ground against the stubborn Ukrainian defenders, with the latter heavily backed by supplies and assistance from America and the rest of NATO.
Well, pootin should have consulted with your sources rather than his own military lack of Intelligence that told him he could win in 3 days.
If Hitler's intelligence was wrong, pootin's was EPIC!! !
06 Mar 2023, 9:42 pm
Mikah wrote:
Now here we are being told that Putin is dying,
Surely you wouldn't deprive us of a little schadenfreude, would you?
After all, this is the creature man who is threatening to unleash a nuclear holocaust, god damn it!
06 Mar 2023, 9:44 pm
magz wrote:
Mikah wrote:
magz wrote:
3-to-1 outnumbering, NATO training and strong defensive positions would effect in 8-to-1 losses on the Ukrainian side despite the rule of thumb being the defender's losses are significantly lower?
Not plausible. Not holding together at all.
Not plausible. Not holding together at all.
Recall that most modern weapons can be fired from safe distance. When your tactics are bomb/missile/shell everything to dust then advance over the ruins - casualties need not be that high. Looking at some of the photographs, that might be what is happening in many places.
magz.
Plz stop.
You are being TOO rational.
06 Mar 2023, 9:48 pm
Mikah wrote:
magz wrote:
That would require overwhelming technological superiority - or else the attacking army would be shelled exactly the same way
I don't think it would require technological superiority, just an overwhelming number of said arms. If have three artillery launchers every one your enemy has or even just the ability to fire more shells that might be enough. Never mind the difference in long range missile and drone capabilities.
pootin has failed in capturing Bakhmut for over 8 or 9 months(?)
The "Bukhmut Russian Meat Grinder" has earned its name.
06 Mar 2023, 9:50 pm
06 Mar 2023, 10:07 pm
Old Russian equipment for its depleted army.
07 Mar 2023, 5:38 am
Pepe wrote:
Now, back to my youtube research.
Yes, I think that is the route to go with you. I will offer you opposing opinions through the medium of youtube clickbait. I thought about engaging on your level in writing, but I couldn't bring myself to start calling Poland, "Pooland".
Part two
07 Mar 2023, 7:24 am
Mikah wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Now, back to my youtube research.
Yes, I think that is the route to go with you. I will offer you opposing opinions through the medium of youtube clickbait. I thought about engaging on your level in writing, but I couldn't bring myself to start calling Poland, "Pooland".
Oh, no return love?
You do realise magz is Polish, right?
07 Mar 2023, 9:32 am
07 Mar 2023, 4:11 pm
Pepe wrote:
Oh, no return love?
You do realise magz is Polish, right?
You do realise magz is Polish, right?
I'm returning the love with banter, hence the spoiler at the top of the post (and some actually serious videos you should watch). I know magz is Polish, it's just a poke-in-the-ribs over the infantile spelling of "Pootin" and infantile arguments of those who use it, not Poland itself - it was just the Po-word close to the argument that came to mind.
Banter is fun, but I might have to give it up if you insist on interpreting everything as a moderation-worthy attack.
