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29 Oct 2017, 11:57 pm

the_phoenix wrote:

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donald trump is nothing but a fear-monger. america already was great. he went around trashing the country and encouraging his followers to beat people with differences up. the kindest interpretation i can give to that is fear.

You offer negative opinions. (fear)
I offer positive proof. (optimism)
Have a good night.

i'm an optimistic realist. i don't ignore bad stuff. i oppose it. i oppose trump's fear-mongering. trump's fear-mongering is not my opinion, it's a fact. i'm dealing with it by offering something better. it's my opinion that we can do better. that's optimism

you have offered zero proof. you might google how to argue logically.

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30 Oct 2017, 12:11 am

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From the king of golfing weekends himself

https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2017/3/27/15073086/donald-trump-tweets-barack-obama-golf

The difference being, President Trump earns his golfing weekends.

an ape can cherry-pick photos to send a message. doesn't mean it's true.

that photo of obama may as well have been taken after he had cleared up his desk after a busy day, or before when he was just beginning. in fact, if you look at the lighting the sun quite clearly is shining through the windows much harder, indicating a late or early hour of the day due to the lower position of the sun relative to the horizon, and not the midday, early afternoon shown by the more moderate lighting behind trump.

it might not have been taken in his first week at all, for all we know, but some are evidently duped into thinking it's true.

they may be up to completely different things that are stupid to compare like that.

even if that picture is true and they were taken at the same time all it says is that trump is more messy and disorganized. we need more information to know what they're doing.

so basically there is no message.

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30 Oct 2017, 12:21 am

the_phoenix wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

You offer negative opinions. (fear)
I offer positive proof. (optimism)
Have a good night.

Why optimism? The positions and actions of Trump are going against my moral values, so that I'm pessimistic make perfect sense.

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30 Oct 2017, 2:20 am

House to release tax cut plan on Wednesday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/usa-tax/ ... SL2N1N40BZ

-Will they condense the tax brackets to three?
-Will they change the US to a territorial tax system?
-Will they end taxes on individual foreign earned income?
-Will they pare down the 401k deduction, SALT deductions, mortgage deductions?
-Will this actually be a "middle class" tax cut?
-How will they prevent professionals from doing "LLC conversions",and getting the "pass through rates", like what happened in Kanas?
-Will we see phenomenal stock market gains based on these cuts?
-Most importantly, how much will I get?

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30 Oct 2017, 3:13 pm

'Do something!!'

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30 Oct 2017, 6:41 pm

Happy, happy, happy, happy, happy joyjoyjoy!

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30 Oct 2017, 8:25 pm

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It's interesting to see how most of the anti-Trump people seem so strongly guided by prejudicial emotions, rather than employing objective analysis.

irony alert - neuroscience studies show that right-wingers tend to be motivated by fear, while left-wingers tend to be motivated by optimism. everyone's rationality is influenced by his emotions.

Given the extreme pessimistic behavior that's been displayed since 11/09/16, those studies have clearly been proven incorrect through empirical evidence.

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30 Oct 2017, 8:36 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:

Why you changed your mind on the debt?

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"By 2024, [the interest on the debt] will reach $880 billion, or 3.3% of GDP. That means interest will account for the lion's share of the $1.1 trillion deficit projected for that year and will come close to what will be spent on Medicare".

NOTE: Interest on debt spending ~ medicare spending in 2024 .....

"In contrast to the rapid growth of interest spending, outlays for defense programs and domestic programs -- such as education, infrastructure, disaster relief and law enforcement -- are on track to fall to their lowest levels since 1962".

We will be consumed by our debt.

source:
http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/04/news/ec ... t-on-debt/

http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=276149&start=30

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30 Oct 2017, 8:48 pm

Tollorin wrote:

Why you changed your mind on the debt?

The tax cuts will not add to the deficit.

That's the challenge.

They have to offset the tax cuts with spending cuts/tax increases elsewhere.

Conservatives believe in "Starve the Beast".

"cutting taxes, in order to deprive the federal government of revenue in a deliberate effort to force it to reduce spending."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast

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30 Oct 2017, 9:19 pm

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Tollorin wrote:

Why you changed your mind on the debt?

Cutting where?

In education? Your public education system already suck and taking away money won't solve things.

In science? If you want to "make america great again" or whatever you need to invest in science.

In military? No way conservatives would cut there.

In culture? Do the US government invest anything there? You certainly need it if you want to keep your dominance there; peoples are getting fed up with the vapid entertainment of Hollywood.

In health and medicaid? Guess conservatives want to cut that; fine with the poor dying but not with taxing the rich.

In food stamp? Conservatives are fine with the poor starving, but not with taxing the rich. That's a good way to bring about violent looting and revolts by the way.

There isn't much to cut really...

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30 Oct 2017, 10:19 pm

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

It's interesting to see how most of the anti-Trump people seem so strongly guided by prejudicial emotions, rather than employing objective analysis.

irony alert - neuroscience studies show that right-wingers tend to be motivated by fear, while left-wingers tend to be motivated by optimism. everyone's rationality is influenced by his emotions.

Given the extreme pessimistic behavior that's been displayed since 11/09/16, those studies have clearly been proven incorrect through empirical evidence.

you can assert this all day and night. doesn't make it true. cite a study or be silent.

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31 Oct 2017, 12:16 am

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

It's interesting to see how most of the anti-Trump people seem so strongly guided by prejudicial emotions, rather than employing objective analysis.

irony alert - neuroscience studies show that right-wingers tend to be motivated by fear, while left-wingers tend to be motivated by optimism. everyone's rationality is influenced by his emotions.

Given the extreme pessimistic behavior that's been displayed since 11/09/16, those studies have clearly been proven incorrect through empirical evidence.

you can assert this all day and night. doesn't make it true. cite a study or be silent.

An event is more conclusive than a study. Especially an event that provides myriad empirical evidence. And so far you've failed to actually cite a study yourself, so you first. Citing a relevant neuroscience study that's met meta-analysis and peer review would be preferable.

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31 Oct 2017, 12:55 am

Papadopoulos is also fun to say.

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31 Oct 2017, 1:36 am

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

It's interesting to see how most of the anti-Trump people seem so strongly guided by prejudicial emotions, rather than employing objective analysis.

irony alert - neuroscience studies show that right-wingers tend to be motivated by fear, while left-wingers tend to be motivated by optimism. everyone's rationality is influenced by his emotions.

Given the extreme pessimistic behavior that's been displayed since 11/09/16, those studies have clearly been proven incorrect through empirical evidence.

you can assert this all day and night. doesn't make it true. cite a study or be silent.

look back a bit in this thread for a link to scientific american article. an event is anecdotal and is nowhere near equal to a study.

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31 Oct 2017, 2:16 am

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

It's interesting to see how most of the anti-Trump people seem so strongly guided by prejudicial emotions, rather than employing objective analysis.

irony alert - neuroscience studies show that right-wingers tend to be motivated by fear, while left-wingers tend to be motivated by optimism. everyone's rationality is influenced by his emotions.

Given the extreme pessimistic behavior that's been displayed since 11/09/16, those studies have clearly been proven incorrect through empirical evidence.

you can assert this all day and night. doesn't make it true. cite a study or be silent.

look back a bit in this thread for a link to scientific american article.

Where is the peer review to corroborate the findings?

cathylynn wrote:

an event is anecdotal and is nowhere near equal to a study.

So hurricane Irma was anicdotal? And the results of that event would be less significant than a previous study?

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31 Oct 2017, 3:07 am

'Do something!!'

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