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31 Oct 2017, 10:57 am

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It's interesting to see how most of the anti-Trump people seem so strongly guided by prejudicial emotions, rather than employing objective analysis.

irony alert - neuroscience studies show that right-wingers tend to be motivated by fear, while left-wingers tend to be motivated by optimism. everyone's rationality is influenced by his emotions.

Given the extreme pessimistic behavior that's been displayed since 11/09/16, those studies have clearly been proven incorrect through empirical evidence.

you can assert this all day and night. doesn't make it true. cite a study or be silent.

An event is more conclusive than a study. Especially an event that provides myriad empirical evidence. And so far you've failed to actually cite a study yourself, so you first. Citing a relevant neuroscience study that's met meta-analysis and peer review would be preferable.

look back a bit in this thread for a link to scientific american article.

Where is the peer review to corroborate the findings?

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an event is anecdotal and is nowhere near equal to a study.

So hurricane Irma was anicdotal? And the results of that event would be less significant than a previous study?

sci am is a peer reviewed journal.

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31 Oct 2017, 11:40 am

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

It's interesting to see how most of the anti-Trump people seem so strongly guided by prejudicial emotions, rather than employing objective analysis.

irony alert - neuroscience studies show that right-wingers tend to be motivated by fear, while left-wingers tend to be motivated by optimism. everyone's rationality is influenced by his emotions.

Given the extreme pessimistic behavior that's been displayed since 11/09/16, those studies have clearly been proven incorrect through empirical evidence.

you can assert this all day and night. doesn't make it true. cite a study or be silent.

look back a bit in this thread for a link to scientific american article.

Where is the peer review to corroborate the findings?

cathylynn wrote:

an event is anecdotal and is nowhere near equal to a study.

So hurricane Irma was anicdotal? And the results of that event would be less significant than a previous study?

sci am is a peer reviewed journal.

Is there a study that gives any examples of where left-wingers as whole have displayed optimism regarding Trumps presidency? Can you give any examples? I haven't seen any myself, but rather overwhelming fear anger and pessimism. So I'd really like to see the optimism which I haven't seen so far.

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31 Oct 2017, 11:48 am

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

It's interesting to see how most of the anti-Trump people seem so strongly guided by prejudicial emotions, rather than employing objective analysis.

irony alert - neuroscience studies show that right-wingers tend to be motivated by fear, while left-wingers tend to be motivated by optimism. everyone's rationality is influenced by his emotions.

Given the extreme pessimistic behavior that's been displayed since 11/09/16, those studies have clearly been proven incorrect through empirical evidence.

you can assert this all day and night. doesn't make it true. cite a study or be silent.

look back a bit in this thread for a link to scientific american article.

Where is the peer review to corroborate the findings?

cathylynn wrote:

an event is anecdotal and is nowhere near equal to a study.

So hurricane Irma was anicdotal? And the results of that event would be less significant than a previous study?

sci am is a peer reviewed journal.

I haven't been following the details in this thread so don't know everything that's been said. I'll only comment that Scientific American is a popular magazine, not a peer-reviewed journal -- which may or may not be relevant.

Also, some scientist ought to study the brain chemistry of raging insane Trump supporters, like this woman, and contrast it with the brain chemistry of rational optimistic liberals.
(Uh ... wait .. maybe I've got that backwards. LOL.)

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31 Oct 2017, 12:02 pm

Darmok wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

EzraS wrote:

It's interesting to see how most of the anti-Trump people seem so strongly guided by prejudicial emotions, rather than employing objective analysis.

irony alert - neuroscience studies show that right-wingers tend to be motivated by fear, while left-wingers tend to be motivated by optimism. everyone's rationality is influenced by his emotions.

Given the extreme pessimistic behavior that's been displayed since 11/09/16, those studies have clearly been proven incorrect through empirical evidence.

you can assert this all day and night. doesn't make it true. cite a study or be silent.

look back a bit in this thread for a link to scientific american article.

Where is the peer review to corroborate the findings?

cathylynn wrote:

an event is anecdotal and is nowhere near equal to a study.

So hurricane Irma was anicdotal? And the results of that event would be less significant than a previous study?

sci am is a peer reviewed journal.

AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGIST, then, which the sci am article cites, is peer-reviewed. sorry about my confusion. a person being generally optimistic may not be reflected in every action or thought, you think?

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31 Oct 2017, 7:56 pm

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I was only addressing the anti-Trump movement seeming to be so strongly guided by fear anger pessimism and prejudicial emotions, rather than objective rationality. There are reams of transcript and hours of footage which lead me to draw this conclusion.

In many cases it's been them quite literally proclaiming on a daily basis, "It's the end of the world, we're all going to die", or words to that effect.

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31 Oct 2017, 8:22 pm

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And as we all know, this is far from an isolated incident. There's hours of footage displaying this type of purely hysterical behavior. I don't think it's unfair or an exaggeration to conclude that mass hysteria is taking place.

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31 Oct 2017, 8:35 pm

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the person in this thread who is most scared of war with n korea is a trump supporter.

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31 Oct 2017, 8:54 pm

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the person in this thread who is most scared of war with n korea is a trump supporter.

That's one person on a low traffic forum. I'm talking across the entire board of all forms of media. And it's not just related to NK. There's going to be an ecological apocalypse, a healthcare apocalypse and so on.

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31 Oct 2017, 9:02 pm

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the person in this thread who is most scared of war with n korea is a trump supporter.

if any of the repub bills on healthcare so far this term would have passed, thousands of newly uninsured would likely have died as a result. that's not a fear. it's a fact.

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31 Oct 2017, 9:59 pm

cathylynn wrote:

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the person in this thread who is most scared of war with n korea is a trump supporter.

if any of the repub bills on healthcare so far this term would have passed, thousands of newly uninsured would likely have died as a result. that's not a fear. it's a fact.

Could you give more specific details regarding that?

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31 Oct 2017, 10:23 pm

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik ... story.html

the cbo is non-partisan. the la times article cites the new england journal of medicine, the most prestigious medical journal ( i know. i was a doctor).

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01 Nov 2017, 6:55 am

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I wonder about what that 28 to 100k demographic is. Like is it one that has a high death rate anyways. Something like it consists of those who are over the age of 75 or are terminally ill etc. According to the CDC the current annual death rate is: 2,626,418 anyways. I get a strong inkling there's a lot more to the overall situation than the republicans will kill 28k people.

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01 Nov 2017, 8:26 am

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the 28k to 100k are deaths in excess of those expected - deaths due to lack of insurance - figured out by how many lives were saved when folks got insurance. 75 year-olds have medicare and would be unaffected.

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01 Nov 2017, 7:55 pm

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I'm just saying there's probably other factors involved than the republicans want to kill off 28-100k people.

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01 Nov 2017, 8:27 pm

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one would hope that there's good reason, but the reason those deaths aren't considered important is that the richest rich will be even richer when their taxes are lowered.

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01 Nov 2017, 8:59 pm

I've known a couple of people who died because of lack of insurance. One is my wife's brother.

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