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21 Jun 2009, 12:30 pm

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That sounds like welfare to me ... I think they should be required to convert to Christianity, or at least sing some hymns or say some prayers to earn the meal. It's like the old saying,"give a man a fish, he will eat for a day ... teach a man to fish, and he will deplete the fishery resource stocks."


Is that how you think Jesus would have felt about it?


Jesus would never have done it like that. Jesus would show prayer in his actions but he feed many non Christians and made friends with them. He would tell them the parables and about God but it was there decision alone if they wanted to follow him.


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21 Jun 2009, 2:05 pm

Shadowgirl wrote:
ed wrote:
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That sounds like welfare to me ... I think they should be required to convert to Christianity, or at least sing some hymns or say some prayers to earn the meal. It's like the old saying,"give a man a fish, he will eat for a day ... teach a man to fish, and he will deplete the fishery resource stocks."


Is that how you think Jesus would have felt about it?


Jesus would never have done it like that. Jesus would show prayer in his actions but he feed many non Christians and made friends with them. He would tell them the parables and about God but it was there decision alone if they wanted to follow him.


I can't believe it... you and I actually agree about something :lol:


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21 Jun 2009, 6:03 pm

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Dr. George "the baby killer" Tiller died the way he lived: murder.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,523709,00.html


I think abortions should be banned if foetus is healthy.

If it is defect, it should be mandatory.



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21 Jun 2009, 6:21 pm

Zyborg wrote:
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Dr. George "the baby killer" Tiller died the way he lived: murder.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,523709,00.html


I think abortions should be banned if foetus is healthy.

If it is defect, it should be mandatory.


All of us aspies are "defective"... you think we all should have been aborted?


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23 Jun 2009, 10:05 am

Shadowgirl wrote:
ed wrote:
monty wrote:
That sounds like welfare to me ... I think they should be required to convert to Christianity, or at least sing some hymns or say some prayers to earn the meal. It's like the old saying,"give a man a fish, he will eat for a day ... teach a man to fish, and he will deplete the fishery resource stocks."


Is that how you think Jesus would have felt about it?


Jesus would never have done it like that. Jesus would show prayer in his actions but he feed many non Christians and made friends with them. He would tell them the parables and about God but it was there decision alone if they wanted to follow him.


I think you are probably right, Shadowgirl ... in contradistinction to many Christians I have met. My former neighbors used to give heavily to a 'charity' that required people to participate in religious activities before they were eligible for food or medical assistance, and they thought that all Christians should think that way. Even Mother Teresa, portrayed as a saint, had very ulterior motives in her charity.

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We must praise and respect any person involved in selfless humanitarian work irrespective of his or her religious belief. But as soon as that work is done with ulterior motive, it no longer remains a saintly deed. Mother Teresa's work falls into the second category.
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"There was a deeper problem with these {charity} services, and Gandhiji drew attention to it again and again. The services were incidental. They were the means. The objective was to convert the natives to Christianity. "The Collected Works of Gandhi" contain several accounts as do Mahadev Desai's "Diaries" in which missionaries acknowledged to Gandhiji that the institutions and services are incidental, that the aim is to gather a fuller
harvest of converts for the Church.

http://www.indiastar.com/DhiruShah.htm



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23 Jun 2009, 3:25 pm

ed wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Dr. George "the baby killer" Tiller died the way he lived: murder.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,523709,00.html


I think abortions should be banned if foetus is healthy.

If it is defect, it should be mandatory.


All of us aspies are "defective"... you think we all should have been aborted?

Why not? I mean I don't agree with the mandatory thing as that implies eugenics, but if a disability can be detected and the parents decide to prevent him from being born, then I don't really see the problem with that as with any reason why people would want to abort.


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