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ArrantPariah
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03 Dec 2012, 8:29 am

LKL wrote:

TL,DR: porn isn't about real sex, and does not represent what most real people (especially women) enjoy in sex.

How would you know?

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03 Dec 2012, 9:29 am

Its logical: Lets turn sides of the typical roles and take a view from the eyes of the other:

Imagine 85% of all porn there would be extreme ugly female actors posing as if they had no brain. So the main action is focused all the time on the male actor, who is 19 year old, extreme sexy, beautiful and gifted with muscles. Then the two of them (absolutely noone explains to us why supersexy adonis is having sex with the ugly female when he could have every girl he wanted) pretend to us, that they would have sex, the problem is every person with at least a bit information about sex can see, that its impossible because the sexy male actor doesnt have an erection. So he is yelling around as if he was an operasinger or dying or something, trying to pretend to us, that he would have sex, but as it is clear to see when they zoom in to his body parts every 10 second: He is having defenetly no erection, which means he is physically not sexual stimulated. Beside his lousy acting that wouldnt convince you if your life depended on it, and the complete ridiculous situation of an actor screaming around like a cat who has starved since 5 days, showing us his unerected penis in zoom every 10 seconds, how would you be animated by this?

I mean you had to be thinking: "Oh wow...i also would like to have gymnastic without sex with an ugly woman who isnt interested in me, while i scream around that i had to be afraid the neighbours call the police because they think i got mad?"

I mean there are physically signs not only on men, but on women too. And watching a women, having definitely no sex, which is also exposed to you every few seconds in zoom, but doing some sort of gymnastic sport with a ugly guy, i mean ... O_o

Maybe you can cheat on unexperienced men with that sort of s**t, but i mean i know what it looks like if a woman has sex, and a woman having no sex by any means (which means that the actor isnt only acting but really having fun) is as interesting as a documentation about the evolution of tupperware products.

So there are few really good productions companies who really do good movies, but compared to all the sniff-garbage on the market they are expensive. But i really do not understand, why it is so hard do understand, why a film having and showing no sex, is not sexually stimulating in any way. ^^

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03 Dec 2012, 10:19 am

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@feenieI've never had someone pay my share on a date and I've never been mean when a guy loses an erection or can't perform.

You're sweet.

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I don't think that there is anything wrong with you using prostitutes because at least you're doing it with women who have chosen that profession and keep a good amount of their money. If you can't cum from sex, then I don't think you are getting a good deal, but then it's your money.

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03 Dec 2012, 11:07 am

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I have some biblical issues regarding feminism.

Please hear me out.

I know many of you are americans. I'm not. I grew up in Sweden. More to the point, I grew up in the ninties (a VERY feminist decade) in the most feminist town in all of Sweden.

During my upbringing, I came to see feminist ideas as the "official" truth, since all authorities and the media seemed to subscribe to it. I tried most my life to live up to the image of what a "good alternative/progressive guy" was supposed to be...

And it turned out it was all for nothing. Not even the girls/women I had admired as role models seemed to like the allaround nice guy I tried to be, the one they'd said they wanted me to be.

So...in short. I looked up to/admired feminists/women, I took everything they said as truth, and THOSE B'TCHES LIED TO ME!! !

I simply can't let it go. It's lika a christian upbringing, you can distance yourself from the religion, but the values are still kinda ingrained in you...

It is 20 pages late but here is a woman on why women don't like 'nice guys'

http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/ ... guys.shtml

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03 Dec 2012, 11:21 am

ArrantPariah wrote:

Executive Ejaculatory Assistant.

Not heard that euphemism before.

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03 Dec 2012, 2:11 pm

LKL wrote:

I will quote myself, because of the misrepresentation in several responses to me:

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A lot of men out there - even heterosexual men - would rather masturbate than use a prostitute, and don't need degrading porn to do so. (edit: not all porn is degrading, but most of the professional stuff is).

The edit was in before any of the responses to my post. Bolding added.

How is a man supposed to know the kind of pornography to which he is expected to masturbate?

Does the National Organization for Women maintain a list of feminist-approved x-rated videos somewhere?

We're just ignorant men, who are likely to start w*king off whenever we are visually stimulated. How are we supposed to know if feminists consider a particular work to be "degrading" or not?

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03 Dec 2012, 6:14 pm

TallyMan wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

Executive Ejaculatory Assistant.

Not heard that euphemism before.

I think a more widely acceptable term is sex worker.

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03 Dec 2012, 6:58 pm

SpiritBlooms wrote:

TallyMan wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

Executive Ejaculatory Assistant.

Not heard that euphemism before.

I think a more widely acceptable term is sex worker.

Quite possibly. But the position title "Executive Ejaculatory Administrator?" conveys considerably higher class and professionalism.

Like the way that "secretaries" are no longer called "secretaries", but "office automation assistant" or some such malarchy.

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03 Dec 2012, 7:27 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:

LKL wrote:

there are also a lot of romance novels where the male lead is interested in a partner and not a conquest.

Oh, so that's what floats your vote. What's your favourite novel?

"The Poisonwood Bible," by Barbara Kingsolver.
"Startide Rising," by David Brin was also very good, as was "Rider at the Gate" by CJ Cherryh.
I'll read pretty much anything by Kingsolver, Brin, or Cherryh.

ArrantPariah wrote:

LKL wrote:

TL,DR: porn isn't about real sex, and does not represent what most real people (especially women) enjoy in sex.

How would you know?

I read a lot, from resources I trust.

ArrantPariah wrote:

LKL wrote:

I will quote myself, because of the misrepresentation in several responses to me:

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The edit was in before any of the responses to my post. Bolding added.

If you can't figure it out yourself, nothing I say is going to help you.

@Schneekugel: from what I hear, even current porn productions require the administration of large amounts of viagra.

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03 Dec 2012, 7:43 pm

The biggest problem with feminism is it is not pro-sammich from what I can tell

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03 Dec 2012, 9:13 pm

LKL wrote:

If you can't figure it out yourself, nothing I say is going to help you.

Did you grow up watching I Love Lucy?

"If you don't know what you did, then I'm not going to tell you."

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03 Dec 2012, 9:22 pm

"I Love Lucy' was well before my time.

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04 Dec 2012, 12:01 am

LKL wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

LKL wrote:

"If you can't figure it out yourself, nothing I say is going to help you.

Did you grow up watching I Love Lucy?

"If you don't know what you did, then I'm not going to tell you."

"I Love Lucy" was well before my time.

Here we are: the Dick Van Dyke show

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB593pdlLDU[/youtube]

Laura leaves Rob wondering what he did wrong.

"If you don't know what you did, then I'm certainly not going to tell you!" :lol:

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04 Dec 2012, 1:31 am

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One of the biggest reasons why men are (intentionally)violent and act like douchebags is that is WORKS: Women are attracted to these men and even in efeminizing cultures like Sweden, guys who rebel and the ones that get laid.

Women who are attracted to jerks tend to have low self-esteem. Women with low self-esteem also tend to be more promiscuous. So, jerky men get sex from women with low self-esteem who are desperately seeking approval and love while simultaneously feeling they deserve punishment. Taking advantage of people with emotional problems.....so sexy. :roll:

Hmm is this always the case, my low self esteem does not make me promiscuous unless wearing non-revealing clothes and being afraid of getting into a relationship due to never being able to stay in one and having it turn awkward when sex comes up is 'promiscuous'. So yeah And I am not attracted to jerks...maybe if you've met one female with low self esteem you've met one female with low self esteem not all of them.

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04 Dec 2012, 8:19 am

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Hmm is this always the case

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Women who are attracted to jerks tend to have low self-esteem. Women with low self-esteem also tend to be more promiscuous.

So the answer is no, it is not always the case.

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04 Dec 2012, 11:34 am

So, What is in Feminism for Men?

Some men thought that they would be rewarded with affection for conforming to Feminist agenda, but clearly this is not the case.

Why should a man be interested in feminism?

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