Would you date a feminist?

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Hell no. Feminism is terrorism and most (if not all) feminist are mentally ill/dysfunctional.

^^ Boy, that escalated too quickly.

G'day, xile123!

I couldn't help but only just notice where your location is (if it is correct).

I asked RetroGamer the same question earlier, but he hasn't answered yet, so I'll ask you.

C+P:

"[i][b]So, do you actually agree Australia seems to have this sort of dominant third-wave Feminism mindset held by many of our women?

That's the sad part. What the American's here seem to describe as 'extremist Feminist' actually appear to be 'normal' Feminist's here.[/b][/i]"

I agree.

I don't believe in reverting back to the old days, when there was a stigma attached to women doing things like going to college/university.

If a woman wants to be an executive, we shouldn't stop her.

If a man wants to stay home and watch the kids, we shouldn't stop him.

But I don't believe in radical Feminism, either. I don't believe I am part of the "Patriarchy." I don't go around oppressing women. I don't feel I'm privileged because I'm a man, either.

There is no "privilege" for me to "leave at the door.

I'm a guy who likes to do guy things, not women things. Yet, I don't mind doing some of these guy things with women who like to do guy things, too.

If a guy wants to do women things--let him go right ahead. As long as he doesn't get upset that I like to do guy things.

Amen to that.

Well then, my argument still stands, except instead of Feminism implying the fight only for women's rights, it also implies the fight only for the rights of women and men who are feminine.

Feminist's are fighting only for people, either male or female, who are feminine, and nothing else - not for masculine men and women, not for men and women who are in-between, but men and women who are feminine.

Which means, my point still stands - I did say earlier most Feminist's I come across tend to date feminine males who are also Feminist like them, and rarely if ever date masculine males who identify as Feminist.

Come to think of it, I've never met a traditionally masculine male that directly supports feminism - we tend to be Gender Equality Activist's or Egalitarianist. We have found at least three examples on this forum.

kraftiekortie sounds traditionally masculine (note: that doesn't mean he's sexist, it just means some of his views may be traditional, but he's not forcing them on anyone, as he says he can see the benefits of a woman being a housewife would be and finds it more practical if his wife were once she retires as he cannot do the housework) and his views on Feminism sound neutral to me.

Face of Boo sounds a bit traditionally masculine, and his views of Feminism sound neutral to me.

Nocturnus is certainly traditionally masculine, and cannot date a feminist as they wouldn't support his traditional views of patriarchy.

And before you consider any of us 'misogynists' for being traditionally masculine, that's oppressing masculine men.

And, I will admit I do see men being feminine slightly negatively, but only because it seems in today's society, men are becoming more feminine, but women aren't becoming more masculine to balance it out.

Women are certainly becoming stronger, independent, etc. but they're becoming empowered while remaining feminine.

Males today seem to be becoming more feminine without the empowerment.

I support househusbands, I support boys playing with dolls, I support men liking purple or pink, I support male ballet dancers, I support men who like fashion, makeup, I support male cross-dressers, I support sensitive, caring males in touch with their 'feelings'.

What I do not support is what seems to be weakened, docile, un-gentlemanly, non-chivalrous, submissive people, male or female, and this is what many young millenial boys and men seem to be becoming.

Males who date feminist's, the female seems to be the dominant one. "Her way or the highway!" because EQUALITY!

It looks like I'm not the only male here who feels they can't do things 'their way' at all with feminist's.

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If you're going to be a feminine male, don't be a weak one.

Just look at women - they're feminine, but are still strong, independent and can fight their own battles.

Most feminine males I come across however, are crybaby's who have to run for help and are a product of the spoiled, entitled millenial generation that tries to make everyone a winner for nothing, and helicopter parents who sheltered them from the real world and showered them with Iphones and technology.

Kraftie, I don't mean to preach; forgive me if I "sound" like that. When feminists refer to 'patriarchy' - and here I'm using the word 'feminists' in a very generalized sense, since there are as many points of view among feminists as there are feminists -, we refer to the idea that created society as we know now. We, people, may not agree with it, we may fight against it, but we are still part of it. As much as I fight to free myself from preconceived ideas, I still have, at least to some extent, some 'patriarchal' views rooted in me.

I don't think men are evil. I don't think people mean harm most of the time. I'm a feminist because I see humans as flawed and our systems as far from perfect, and thus I do my best to help improving them - as far as my own flaws allow me. And I believe many other feminists are like that. But often we were deeply harmed by our culture, and it's hard to be softspoken when you've gone through rape and abuse.

I personally don't believe in girl's things and boy's things; I believe in people's things being seen as people's things and everyone being allowed to chose. But that's just me. (Preaching. )

[*Sighs* Not exactly what I wanted to say. But there. Tough issue.]

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I really have to calm down.

Please don't believe I don't acknowledge the suffering women go through, and have gone through in the course of history.

I've had women friends, and girlfriend who have suffered. They have trusted me enough to confide in me.

If you would meet me, you would realize that I have a good understanding of this, and that I'm not some callous male. And that I don't need to be convinced---for I am convinced.

I feel, sometimes, that Feminism and such are overly politicized, and don't take into account actual personal relationships. Instead, they rely on ideology and an intellectualism which belies actual experience.

My ideal relationship is the one which William Godwin and Mary Wollstonecraft had. Virtuous and equal, yet understanding both male and female sensibility.

I believe, Outrider, that once you arrive in Brisbane and University, that you'll meet many sorts of women...not just those "extreme Feminists" you speak of.

I work with many accomplished women. Most believe in being, in general, feminine rather than masculine. They have Feminist ideas--but they understand that, sometimes, women want to do women things, and males want to do male things. And both want to do "people" things, too.

If she was a normal feminist who has a rational mind and is understanding all people are equal and understand both sexes go through s**t, then maybe yes, if she is a rad fem and enjoys demonizing men, then no! I prefer a humanist and egalitarian which what I am.

There as many evil women as there are men, not al women are evil mind you, but not all men are either, I am just sick of hearing that all men are bad and all women are good because thats a load of BS, I am a male survivor of sexual,mental and domestic abuse, I may be privileged at some degree however shelters for battered men are lacking, I was circumsized without consent because American society dictates so and only recently feminists are standing up against male genital mutilation when it is too late for me. So my male privilege is getting circumsized without consent, being part of the draft in selective services regardless of being autistic and having to be vilified by the feminist movement as well as the SJWs for being cis gender, male and caucasian, I did not choose to be born caucasian, male or heterosexual either. I am me I just want to live without being blamed for everything or as a villain, I do what I can to do whats right and I am still the bad guy, its total BS but I cant say it is or else I will be silenced and banned, I have no voice on this site and have no righs to stick up for myself!

Or perhaps all men aren't all viloent and strong and "me kill stuff"

The hypocrisy of people on an autism site using that as an insult...