The WOKE Generation!

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I first heard the term in the late 2010s which was the first Trump administration. It was a new way to describe what was previously called Social Justice Warriors, and before that political correctness. I heard plenty of people that are not fascist such as traditional liberals use the term wokeness. What they are criticizing is perceived overemphasis on identity centered on oppressor and oppressed groups, presentism judging historical figures solely by present day morality, purity tests, wanting to censor people over minor offenses. IMHO people offended by this ad fall into this description.

You are correct that description bears little resemblance to the original meaning which not about being aware of the problems in the world in general but for blacks to be aware of non obvious racism. Terms evolve sometimes in ways we can go along with, sometimes in ways we find very wrong.

You are correct about many MAGA’s doing the same things they criticize “wokes” for. There is a term for that.

I would like to discuss this further but I am late for my fascist brain washing session.

In news stories like this, we are rarely told the relevant history.

For example, in this story, we are not told whether this was the kid's first offense, or just the last straw in a long series of racially insensitive remarks that the kid made despite repeated attempts by the teachers to get him to stop.

If indeed this was the kid's first offense, then I agree that suspending him was excessive.

No, these are not the same.

We now live in an era when all people with Hispanic names, and all people with foreign accents, and all people with speech impairments that can be mistaken for foreign accents, are in danger of being profiled (racially or otherwise) by ICE and sent to a concentration camp in El Salvador without any due process. I personally am terrified of the possibility of this happening to both my partner (due to his speech impairment) and my niece's family (Hispanic last name).

Merely feeling like you are from a different planet due to being autistic is NOT in the same category of danger (unless you ALSO have a speech impairment that gets mistaken for a foreign accent).

So, yes, casually throwing around the term "illegal alien" is inconsiderate in a way that references to a feeling of being from another planet are not.

Moreover, Wrong Planet is a site by and for autistic people, not a site for NT's condescendingly referring to autistic people as being from another planet.

But I agree that the suspension was excessive, especially if this was the kid's first offense. Also, in this specific case, the kid was only asking for a clarification.

According to Alex:

About Wrong Planet
Wrong Planet is the web community designed for individuals (and parents / professionals of those) with Autism, Asperger’s Syndrome, ADHD, PDDs, and other neurological differences. We provide a discussion forum, where members communicate with each other, an article section, with exclusive articles and how-to guides, a blogging feature, and more.

I now identify as neurodivergent at work. I could well have autism or ADHD but never had a formal diagnosis. And yes I too live on earth but I think like an alien.

we all know "woke" was appropriated by anti-Obama republicans and the neo-far right from African American civil rights culture. It was taken from African Americans and thrown at social justice advocates.

However I acknowledge feminism and racial politics has become weaponised. I myself have become a target of female non-binary staff who I know weaponised being gay against me. I responded by enrolling in LGBTIQ training so they would leave me alone.

what's missing is the ability to use critical thinking to separate individuals weaponization of social justice from MAGAs waging war on social justice.

Yes, WP does include parents and professionals as well as autistic and other neurodiverent people, but WP centers autistic and other ND perspectives. NT parents and professionals would likely get warnings from moderators if they were too obnoxiously condescending to autistic people here.


I'm sorry about my insufficiently inclusive wording.

The point I was trying to make was that the name "Wrong Planet," in the context of this forum, is a reclamation, not an insult.

I've been on wrong planet since 2011 and never actually seen parents or professionals doing what you claim. what I did see between 2011-2015 was high functioning Aspies being obnoxiously condescending toward "low" functioning autistic people. Up to 2015 a lot of members on wrong planet referred to themselves as Aspies or having Aspergers and referred to low functioning people as "autistic". I remember some Aspies who were angry about even being associated with being autistic as they (rightly or wrongly) associated autism with intellectual disability. the r-word was being thrown around and I was literally the only member objecting to (mostly younger aspies) using the r-word.

Asperger societies still exist in Victoria Australia (where I live) which don't permit membership to people with classic autism and their families. this is the real world we live (I am not judging).

Fortunately these type of condescending posts disappeared on wrong planet after 2015 but I suspect the negative stigma and attitude remains because its internalising negative stereotypes carried in the wider community carried by at least some (maybe not all) Aspies toward ID.

I have always respected that.

Never weighed in on this topic,due to the lack of pattern recognition of the masses. Which, was tired of the critique of so many short sighted people imho. Wokism, the long game , as a result of George Floyd and several other innocents getting murdered in public by the very police peeps paid to protect us . And eventually due to being able to seperate ,
divide people against their own best interests . Seeing the immediate after effects of Police and public officials taking a knee in Public as a attempt to appear as being concerned with the well being of the people whom initiated wokism .
ie. disenfranchised people.To stop a actual revolution by the masses. Consider a huge number of the current US population are considered as black people . Just imagine if those in power did not help institute all these social demostrations . You would not have been able to get a single white person in office voted for again. But , then you sort out the real people whom might have orchestrated group actions by allowing these demostrations in various cities about the USA . And watching who the leaders actually were, And as in Oregon, you make those people disappear ( ie. White vans with mercenary types loading people in the leadership positions, into these vans and disappearing them) . Later inciting MAGA types ,by tearing down their old Civil war Southern heroes statues, but not statues to Famous black leaders , To create further division amongst American Citizens . This might help create white black division of Magas especially. Then a parade of constant stressors put upon the citizens including a apparently intentional throwing of the last election . Causing Biden to appear as a buffoon. Then offering up a vise president Harris ,Whom has all but appeared in the past to be a dysfunctional candidate . With no history of bring promoted in the Democratic party. Or efforts to populize her throughout the USA
Even the Black population did not come out to vote for her. Now we have Trump and you can all see,what has happened with him. Given the events and things that transpired since wokism . It might not be hard to look for a sequential pattern . That was determined to have these exact outcomes .But who is looking? "but this is just my opinion" Considering Wokism et.al. not just Autism reflections

Allow me to assure anyone observing this thread ,it was not my intent to kill it. Sorry if offended anyone.

We understand the difference. I doubt that this school system and those with the same mentality would understand this nuance. Those NT’s would just think it is offensive and ban it. That was my whole point. While we do not have ICE after us autistics are mistreated or even killed by law enforcement because the way we walk, the way we react to encounters with them. And as you noticed we have the highest government officials saying the very bad things about us and wanting to put all of us in a registry.

Personal Notes:
I have always felt the name “Wrong Planet” to be offensive because it implies we are not human. In 2014 and in 2019 I polled members and both times the results were my opinion is a small minority.

I have always had a speech impediment. It was made a lot worse by a tongue replacement operation I underwent a dozen years ago. Now the worst parts is sometimes I have to repeat my self and customer service people on the phone mistakenly call me mam. If I was younger and did not walk with a cane who knows.

My bugaboo about language policing comes a lot from dealing with youtube and blog comments section about autism during the 2010s. Almost without fail those discussions would get hijacked by language policiers insisting we use “person with autism” because “autistic” is offensive. I was offended by people probably with decades less experience than me at being autistic telling me what I should find offensive.

well now this explains everything
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... republican

things don't happen for no reason...

I did not claim that they do such a thing. I said that if they ever did it, the moderators would object. The fact that they don't do it here is all the more evidence of this forum's autistic-centered and more generally ND-centered nature.


Thanks for sharing this history.

If I'm not mistaken, Wrong Planet was originally defined as a forum for Aspies and only later became more inclusive. Is that correct?


Around here, most "Aspie" or "Aspergers" organizations have changed their name to something containing the word "Autism" or "Autism Spectrum," but there are a few holdouts who have not changed their names.

Yes, a number of members were born non-verbal and so were diagnosed with Autism.

this group wouldn't let my daughter join
https://aspergersvic.org.au/

they still exist

^^ Not very Woke of them ^^