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27 Sep 2008, 1:38 am

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Lol, It must take a leap of faith to believe that.. i feel so sorry for you.


Yeah it sure takes a leap of faith to believe something that is less convoluted and requires less assumptions.


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27 Sep 2008, 1:56 am

Less?.. you don't even know what you believe



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27 Sep 2008, 1:58 am

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Less?.. you don't even know what you believe


'Unusual smoke coming out of plane' implies 'government trying to cripple and kill own citizens'

Right

Even if they view us as tools (they do), there's no valid reason for them to break said tools

Have you ever considered that they would be more likely to test new clandestine weapons on people who aren't us, wouldn't know what's going on and wouldn't be able to do anything even if they did? (i.e., poor people in 3rd world countries)

Considering all the real abuses carried out by the government and (certain) businesses in places where no one is likely to see them, it's just shameful that you waste so much time chasing this chemtrail BS.

Here's a 'conspiracy' for you:

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27 Sep 2008, 2:03 am

the chemicals are meant to affect crop fields and control the weather.. it's done all over the world.



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27 Sep 2008, 2:13 am

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Assuming you still believe that countries aren't just lines drawn in the sand


If people export their abuses to places like Ecuador and Nigeria (has happened in the case of oil industry), people are less likely to know. Not necessarily because they don't care, but simply because it doesn't come to mind. Generally speaking, no one stops in the middle of his day and asks himself "What's happening in Ecuador right about now?"

So, if there is really someone testing 'chemtrails' ... whether they are new weapons or weather modification agents or whatever (no Internet woo-woo has ever given me a clear fucking answer on what 'chemtrails' are), why not carry out the experiments in places where there aren't dips**ts with cameras everywhere pointing to ordinary vapor formations and insisting they are part of some conspiracy involving grey aliens/the Illuminati/NWO/rich Ashkenazim/bogeyman du jour?

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then I'm pretty sure a U.S. government plane would be shot down for dropping chemicals on their civilians..


Right. Because it isn't happening and you are wasting a lot of time on this delusion, ignoring many real problems in doing so.

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the chemicals are meant to affect crop fields and control the weather.. it's done all over the world.


What 'chemicals'? Can you even name the fucking compounds? Surely if these 'chemicals' are being dropped on crop fields everywhere, someone would have found an unusual residue by now.

And what 'weather control'? Controlling the weather how? To what end? The weather looks about as capricious and destructive as it usually is. Unless you want me to believe that the 'New World Order' wanted to ruin economically viable parts of Texas. I'm not saying there isn't science under development to control weather to some degree (the gubbermint has disclosed that publicly), but it's not there yet.


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27 Sep 2008, 3:14 am

I guess you started quoting me too soon, I forgot that it was all over the world, not just America or Canada, so your question; why would they do it out in the open where everyone can see? especially when they want to aim at specific areas, it's pointless..

no I don't know what compounds they use, I just know what im looking at. I'm not an expert.. experts destroy this world<--- that is a fact.



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27 Sep 2008, 3:24 am

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I guess you started quoting me too soon, I forgot that it was all over the world, not just America or Canada, so your question; why would they do it out in the open where everyone can see? especially when they want to aim at specific areas, it's pointless..


Yeah looks like a highly-organized NWO alright

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no I don't know what compounds they use, I just know what im looking at.


No, you don't.

If there are fucking jumbo jets dumping chemical agents on us left, right and center, as you say, then at least one person would have come forward with physical trace evidence.

Yet no one has done so.

Because it's not happening.

And where are the effects? I'll give odds that a Student t test of birth defect occurrence in areas where 'chemtrails' appear rejects something like an Agent Orange scenario.

Of course, you still haven't told me what the fuck chemtrails are, so I really have no idea how to proceed with testing.

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I'm not an expert.. experts destroy this world<--- that is a fact.


Expertise is a state or process, not an action, good or bad. Being an expert, on anything, says nothing about your character one way or the other.

Your anti-intellectualism is just ... staggering. I used to believe only other Americans indulged in this kind of tripe but it looks like I'm wrong.

Ah! I've got it: you're a playa hater!

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27 Sep 2008, 9:32 am

Youtube images in low quality definition of a 747 releasing unknown materials in flight.. with french subtitles..

That's not compelling evidence. Nor is it a complete picture. Can we get flightplans, flight numbers? Airline? Time of day? Place in the world? What was underneath them? Whats the camera platform? What's the altitude? Why is anyone pacing a 747 with a camera? Why are they filming the jumbo? Are conspiracy theorists so well equipped they can hire a jet to chase flights? Was the film taken by those who want the chemtrails, as part of a test, or what? What is usually found in the spot the material is ejected from? Is it going to be the "mysterious liquid ejection port 3a" or just the dump valve for the toilets? What's the history of the aircraft.. is it still flying? Is it available for examination IRL?

There are endless questions, and nobody on the side of chemtrails is asking them, never mind answering them.

Once we start seeing some detailed and exhaustive analysis, then maybe we might start buying the theory.

Youtube images of asian ladies in hotpants are however definitive proof of the amazing hotness of hotpants and asian babes.. though I believe that there is a conspiracy here. They have a drumkit.. and drumnoise.. but NO DRUMMER. Maybe they think the asian babes will distract us from noticing THERE IS NO BAND.


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27 Sep 2008, 10:53 am

I looked out my window the other night and the sky was red. s**t!! !![/sarcasm]


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27 Sep 2008, 11:02 am

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Youtube images of asian ladies in hotpants are however definitive proof of the amazing hotness of hotpants and asian babes.. though I believe that there is a conspiracy here. They have a drumkit.. and drumnoise.. but NO DRUMMER. Maybe they think the asian babes will distract us from noticing THERE IS NO BAND.


Yeah and where is the guy playing the Electone? The plot thickens.


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27 Sep 2008, 11:39 am

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Macbeth wrote:
Youtube images of asian ladies in hotpants are however definitive proof of the amazing hotness of hotpants and asian babes.. though I believe that there is a conspiracy here. They have a drumkit.. and drumnoise.. but NO DRUMMER. Maybe they think the asian babes will distract us from noticing THERE IS NO BAND.


Yeah and where is the guy playing the Electone? The plot thickens.


Yes indeed. And how can we expect quality mind control without a Theremin player?


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27 Sep 2008, 1:41 pm

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That's not compelling evidence. Nor is it a complete picture. Can we get flightplans, flight numbers? Airline? Time of day? Place in the world? What was underneath them? Whats the camera platform? What's the altitude? Why is anyone pacing a 747 with a camera? Why are they filming the jumbo? Are conspiracy theorists so well equipped they can hire a jet to chase flights? Was the film taken by those who want the chemtrails, as part of a test, or what? What is usually found in the spot the material is ejected from? Is it going to be the "mysterious liquid ejection port 3a" or just the dump valve for the toilets? What's the history of the aircraft.. is it still flying? Is it available for examination IRL?



Umm.. do you want to know the truth or not?.. it seems if you did you wouldn't try and suppress someone who is at least trying.. are you content to be ignorant until the people conspiring against you reveal to you what they are doing?.. if so then you'll never know the truth.. so why suppress the person trying to bring it to you? legitimate questions are one thing, but assuming left and right that it's all one big fabrication is stupidity..

In the places that chemtrails have been often, on the ground there remains a slimy layer of.. something.. or powder falling from the skyVVV


http://www.willthomasonline.net/willtho ... _2008.html
"Sandra knows a “very well known microbiologist who has three dead friends” and whom she does not reveal to anyone. Using a 20,000-power microscope he looked at her samples of chemtrails fallout caught in a sterile dish in her front yard - not rain, but actual powder falling from the sky. "




http://parallelnormal.com/2007/04/26/gl ... r-warfare/

http://www.nr23.net/govt/spray.htm

http://www.owsweather.com/contrailreport.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4410309502 <--google lovers.. BS, just how you like it.




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27 Sep 2008, 3:26 pm

A bit of drive-by fact-checking...

That 747 is the Evergreen Supertanker firefighting aircraft operated by Evergreen International (in higher resolution versions of that video you can read the company name on the side of the plane). My french is very rusty, but I think the subtitles say something along the lines of "747 equipped as a water bomber, filmed in testing phase." There was some talk about deploying this aircraft in California to fight wildfires during the last fire season, though I don't think it was used.


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27 Sep 2008, 3:52 pm

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A bit of drive-by fact-checking...

That 747 is the Evergreen Supertanker firefighting aircraft operated by Evergreen International (in higher resolution versions of that video you can read the company name on the side of the plane). My french is very rusty, but I think the subtitles say something along the lines of "747 equipped as a water bomber, filmed in testing phase." There was some talk about deploying this aircraft in California to fight wildfires during the last fire season, though I don't think it was used.


Well, there you have it. They are hiding the conspiracy behind a fake concern for fighting fires. :evil: :wink:



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27 Sep 2008, 4:08 pm

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klick wrote:
A bit of drive-by fact-checking...

That 747 is the Evergreen Supertanker firefighting aircraft operated by Evergreen International (in higher resolution versions of that video you can read the company name on the side of the plane). My french is very rusty, but I think the subtitles say something along the lines of "747 equipped as a water bomber, filmed in testing phase." There was some talk about deploying this aircraft in California to fight wildfires during the last fire season, though I don't think it was used.


Well, there you have it. They are hiding the conspiracy behind a fake concern for fighting fires. :evil: :wink:


Well all it proves is that the video was wrong.. and youtube fails.

But it doesn't prove the non-existence of anything



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27 Sep 2008, 5:15 pm

No more http://www.coasttocoastam.com/ for you guys


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