Looks like Glenn Beck is right on Inflation

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18 Jun 2011, 12:04 pm

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You need flour to make bread, where are they going to get the flour from, oh that's right they need the grain from the midwest and several states in the Great Plains. :lol:

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18 Jun 2011, 7:27 pm

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The CPI does not include food and energy costs when they calculate inflation as I've already pointed out.

Yes. No-one has argued otherwise.

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Furthermore, I am aware the US mint prints money to replace money that is worn out (and the worn out money is destroyed), that is substancially different from Quantitative Easing.

Wow! You're a smart one today!



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18 Jun 2011, 11:47 pm

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Inuyasha wrote:
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The CPI does not include food and energy costs when they calculate inflation as I've already pointed out.

Yes. No-one has argued otherwise.

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Furthermore, I am aware the US mint prints money to replace money that is worn out (and the worn out money is destroyed), that is substancially different from Quantitative Easing.

Wow! You're a smart one today!


Okay you seem to be rather slow here. While the CPI doesn't include the increase in food and energy prices, these two items have the most effect on consumer pocketbooks. So while they are claiming there is no inflation, if those items have increasing prices they are the most crippling.



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19 Jun 2011, 3:49 am

Inuyasha wrote:
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The CPI does not include food and energy costs when they calculate inflation as I've already pointed out.

Yes. No-one has argued otherwise.

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Furthermore, I am aware the US mint prints money to replace money that is worn out (and the worn out money is destroyed), that is substancially different from Quantitative Easing.

Wow! You're a smart one today!


Okay you seem to be rather slow here. While the CPI doesn't include the increase in food and energy prices, these two items have the most effect on consumer pocketbooks. So while they are claiming there is no inflation, if those items have increasing prices they are the most crippling.


he agrees with you on how they calculate it that is not in dispute.
Are you are proposing a novel method of calculation ?
so the methods of economic need to bend to make you right?
your lack of morals is outstanding is nothing safe?


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19 Jun 2011, 9:34 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Okay you seem to be rather slow here. While the CPI doesn't include the increase in food and energy prices, these two items have the most effect on consumer pocketbooks. So while they are claiming there is no inflation, if those items have increasing prices they are the most crippling.


Sorry, no-one is claiming "no inflation." Read the report again.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

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The Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) increased
0.2 percent in May on a seasonally adjusted basis, the U.S. Bureau of
Labor Statistics reported today. Over the last 12 months, the all
items index increased 3.6 percent before seasonal adjustment.

The index for all items less food and energy increased 0.3 percent in
May, its largest increase since July 2008. The indexes for apparel,
shelter, new vehicles, and recreation all contributed to the
acceleration, rising more in May than in April. These increases more
than offset declines in the indexes for airline fare, tobacco, and
personal care.

The food index rose in May as well. The food at home index repeated
its April increase of 0.5 percent as four of the six major grocery
store food group indexes increased, with the index for meats,
poultry, fish, and eggs rising the most. In contrast, the energy
index, which had been rising sharply, declined in May. The gasoline
index decreased for the first time since last June, although the
index for household energy increased.

The upward trend among the 12 month increases of major indexes
continued in May. The 12 month change in the all items index, which
was 1.1 percent as recently as November, reached 3.6 percent in May.
The energy index has increased 21.5 percent over the last 12 months,
the food index has risen 3.5 percent and the index for all items less
food and energy has increased 1.5 percent. All of these figures have
been rising in recent months.



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19 Jun 2011, 10:03 pm

I wasn't claiming that they were saying there was no inflation, I'm saying inflation is worse than they are admitting.



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20 Jun 2011, 1:37 pm

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Okay you seem to be rather slow here. While the CPI doesn't include the increase in food and energy prices, these two items have the most effect on consumer pocketbooks. So while they are claiming there is no inflation, if those items have increasing prices they are the most crippling.


Sorry, no-one is claiming "no inflation." Read the report again.


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I wasn't claiming that they were saying there was no inflation, I'm saying inflation is worse than they are admitting.


You have a hard time keeping track of your own claims, don't you Sweetie?

Now, maybe you see why the rest of us have a hard time with you, too.



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29 Jun 2011, 3:41 pm

I do perceive a pattern here

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2mbpvtuCi4[/youtube]

Lyndon LaRouche makes a pronouncement, which Glenn Beck and his minions not only repeat and but defend beyond all credibility.



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29 Jun 2011, 5:30 pm

Actually panda, it's more of you seem unable to follow basic math. The reason why some metals for instance are worth more than others is due to the fact they are rare. Iron isn't worth as much as platinum.

Same thing involves the value of the dollar, and also is partially how Rome collapsed, devaluing the money to pay for things. Seriously, this isn't exactly rocket science, this is something that is extremely basic to the point someone in elementary school can understand if it was explained to them.



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29 Jun 2011, 5:32 pm

as I said.....



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29 Jun 2011, 5:39 pm

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as I said.....


At this point I don't particularly care what you've said.

There are only two reasons why we aren't seeing $5 a gallon gas right now.

1. Greece's economic collapse is pulling the Euro down bigtime.
2. Obama flooded the market with our strategic petroleum reserve, which puts us in an even worse position if middle eastern countries suddenly start imploding.



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29 Jun 2011, 5:52 pm

This was the hyperinflation thread, where you claimed that Glenn Beck had correctly forecasted that a loaf of bread was going to cost a million bucks.

I'm sure that Glenn Beck's forecast of the $5 per gallon for gasoline already took into consideration both Greece's economic woes and the flooding of the market with strategic petroleum reserve.

The government retaining a reserve, and then releasing it when petroleum prices are high, are nothing more than Keynesian economics on display.



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29 Jun 2011, 5:58 pm

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This was the hyperinflation thread, where you claimed that Glenn Beck had correctly forecasted that a loaf of bread was going to cost a million books.

I'm sure that Glenn Beck's forecast of the $5 per gallon for gasoline already took into consideration both Greece's economic woes and the flooding of the market with strategic petroleum reserve.

The government retaining a reserve, and then releasing it when petroleum prices are high, are nothing more than Keynesian economics on display.


It is called Strategic Reserve for a reason, it is there for use in an extreme emergency (like we are attacked), not for messing with prices at the pump when it benefits people in government politically.

Greece's economic woes is wrecking the value of the Euro, which is good because we'd be in economic freefall if the Euro hadn't had the bottom dropped out from under it.



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29 Jun 2011, 6:01 pm

So, you're admitting that Glenn Beck was wrong. Congratulations on attaining enlightenment.



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29 Jun 2011, 6:03 pm

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So, you're admitting that Glenn Beck was wrong. Congratulations on attaining enlightenment.


:roll:

Actually he isn't wrong, we're about to go down hill if something doesn't change and the kooks in Washington don't get their spending under control.



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29 Jun 2011, 6:12 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
So, you're admitting that Glenn Beck was wrong. Congratulations on attaining enlightenment.


:roll:

Actually he isn't wrong, we're about to go down hill if something doesn't change and the kooks in Washington don't get their spending under control.


Okay, so you're still unenlightened.