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25 Sep 2008, 1:22 pm

How about Pythagoras, do you know anything about his stance on politics?

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/pythagor.htm

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25 Sep 2008, 2:26 pm

ShawnWilliam wrote:

Whatever Chever.. trying to make me look stupid is easy, because you use words to unravel me..

I use facts and logic.

ShawnWilliam wrote:

But I'm not stupid.

I never said you were stupid. I would say that you are horribly misguided though.

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I dont think the same as you do, you think with an extremely narrow conscience, in a box

No I don't. You're under the impression that I wear a spotless white coat and eat exactly 2500 Kcals of vitamin-fortified gruel everyday. That's not the case. I like dancing to mor lam and watching Beavis and Butt-head.

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and your ways are much more popular then mine..

No.

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but I highly doubt that my way of thinking is the result of being stupid.

And I agree entirely. It's a consequence of not thinking.

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25 Sep 2008, 2:33 pm

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What are you going to do about it, racist?

[sarcasm]Yes, you've got. I am so racist. So racist in fact, that when I am sat down with my Sri Lankan friends that when I'm not calling them racist names, imitating their accents and insulting their culture, I walk around with a KKK hood and a swastika. Excuse me, but I'm off to lynch a few people of different ethnic backgrounds. I can see how pointing out you rely on the "expertise" of friends with names I mistook for internet pseudonyms puts even Hitler to shame.[/sarcasm]
You clearly have no idea what racism is.

chever wrote:

Bring my computer to its knees with your almighty Visual Basic hack tool?

I see. So basically, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Firstly, it is a VBA macro. Get it right.
Secondly, a database macro is not a "hack tool".
Thirdly: -

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I have written programs that are smarter than you.

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A VBA macro

[sarcasm]Hmm, I can guess how that must be hard for a, quote, genius, unquote, to understand.[/sarcasm]

You seem to be completely unaware of the fact that I've completely led you away from your, quote, points, unquote, completely, and I got you to agree with me and subtract your points on many occasions.

[/sarcasm]You're certainly on the ball, aren't you? Oh, I'm sure it is part of some secret strategy.[/sarcasm]
Or not.

Just stop posting. All you are doing, apart from making me crack up and think even less of you than before, which isn't too bad, is make yourself look like a bigger idiot than you already are.

So basically: -

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25 Sep 2008, 3:05 pm

Sling wrote:

Exactly. Shame on you, racist.

BTW, saying you have a lot of friends of x ethnicity is a pretty comical excuse for being a racist.

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I see. So basically, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Obviously I do, because rendering an IFS like the one I just showed by hand would take weeks (twenty thousand applications of several linear transformations selected randomly from a probability vector, then scaled up and Gaussian blurred).

Since I'm such a piss poor programmer, here's another one I had to draw entirely in MS Paint. Took me two months:

Sling wrote:

Firstly, it is a VBA macro. Get it right.

It's also pathetic.

Hell, I know what Visual Basic for Applications is. I used to find things like that 'cool' when I was about twelve. But now I'm into full-fledged computer science, I can't waste my time with a language that has piss-poor polymorphism, no block-nested scoping, no lexical closure, inconsistent indexing schemes for built-in types, etc., etc., etc.

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Secondly, a database macro is not a "hack tool".

I know. Someone with as many years of programming experience as me knows a glorified form-filler that doesn't do any advanced mathematical wizardry when he sees one. (That Python doo-hickey I did there relied on linear algebra and real analysis.) But my point was that a 1337 h4x0r such as your racist self must have great h4x prowess and would easily be able to flood my b0x with DDoS attacks.

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25 Sep 2008, 3:19 pm

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Obviously I do. Since I'm such a piss poor programmer, here's another one I had to draw entirely in MS Paint. Took me two months:

MS Paint. The leading compiler software out there! I love how you are so insecure you feel the need to "impress" me with things I clearly don't give a s**t about.

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It's also pathetic.

That's the point, moron. =]

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I know. Someone with as many years of programming experience as me knows a glorified form-filler that doesn't do any advanced mathematical wizardry when he sees one.

Most people can recognise their own reflection. What do you want? A medal? Whoop de doo.

chever wrote:

But my point was that a 1337 h4x0r such as yourself must have great h4x prowess and would easily be able to flood my b0x with DDoS attacks.

Oh, so you are saying you have no idea what you are talking about. Thanks for clearing that up.

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25 Sep 2008, 3:25 pm

Sling wrote:

chever wrote:

Obviously I do. Since I'm such a piss poor programmer, here's another one I had to draw entirely in MS Paint. Took me two months:

MS Paint. The leading compiler software out there! I love how you are so insecure you feel the need to "impress" me with things I clearly don't give a sh** about.

Python is interpreted...

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chever wrote:

I know. Someone with as many years of programming experience as me knows a glorified form-filler that doesn't do any advanced mathematical wizardry when he sees one.

Most people can recognise their own reflection. What do you want? A medal? Whoop de doo.

That was a reference to your sh***y plug & chug macro.

Fractals, on the other hand, are pretty heavy stuff.

(Like, Springer-Verlag level. But I doubt you'd know about them.)

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25 Sep 2008, 3:57 pm

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I use facts and logic.

No, you use dialogue, semantics, and humor, is ALL I've ever seen you use..

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I never said you were stupid.

Good.

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I would say that you are horribly misguided though.

Most people are, and I have been, but especially you.. you are guided by a bloodsucking society, and becoming a bloodsucker yourself.

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watching Beavis and Butthead is not my idea of growing a conscience.

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No.

Yes.

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And I agree entirely. It's a consequence of not thinking.

My version of thinking is not your version of thinking.. you zero in on details that have to relevance to our existence.. my idea of a good society is not civilization, because civilization is the building blocks of enslavery. I don't think like you do, I think on a broader spectrum, but you think on a very narrow, very 1 dimensional spectrum.

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25 Sep 2008, 4:10 pm

This is like a Star Trek sitcom. :lol:

Don't you all see that you are specialized in your thinking. NT's are generalized.
How are we supposed to get along, let alone have a peaceful society if we can't appreciate our differences.

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25 Sep 2008, 4:12 pm

Magnus wrote:

This is like a Star Trek sitcom. :lol:

Don't you all see that you are specialized in your thinking. NT's are generalized.
How are we supposed to get along, let alone have a peaceful society if we can't appreciate our differences.

Lol... getting along is perfectly great... but first they have to agree with me.

I would appreciate or differences if I wasn't attacked for mine

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25 Sep 2008, 4:17 pm

ShawnWilliam wrote:

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I use facts and logic.

No, you use dialogue, semantics, and humor, is ALL I've ever seen you use..

'Occam's razor' is a staple of logic and it applies to many of your posts.

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I would say that you are horribly misguided though.

Most people are, and I have been, but especially you.. you are guided by a bloodsucking society, and becoming a bloodsucker yourself.

How am I becoming a 'bloodsucker'?

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watching Beavis and Butthead is not my idea of growing a conscience.

The point is that I'm nowhere near as lifeless as you say.

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With the magic of linear algebra, I can think in any number of dimensions.

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25 Sep 2008, 6:14 pm

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'Occam's razor' is a staple of logic and it applies to many of your posts.

Woopty f****n do..

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How am I becoming a 'bloodsucker'?

You suck the life out of my words for one, by ignoring their true intent/meaning. Two, you suck the life out of just about any serious topic by showing up with nothing but a can of worms..

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The point is that I'm nowhere near as lifeless as you say.

Meh.. whatever.

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With the magic of linear algebra, I can think in any number of dimensions.

that demonstrates your inability perfectly to think outside of the box; the box being your field of expertise

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25 Sep 2008, 6:27 pm

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Very nice. I am a big fan of fractals. I wish this one was set to motion. I could watch it for an hour and not even feel time pass. Even without being in motion, it still almost seems to move when you look from one spiral to the other.

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25 Sep 2008, 6:39 pm

Magnus wrote:

This is like a Star Trek sitcom. :lol:

Don't you all see that you are specialized in your thinking. NT's are generalized.
How are we supposed to get along, let alone have a peaceful society if we can't appreciate our differences.

Didn't you say.. they ALL cooperated in Star Trek.. ?

I thought that was a good point you were making.

Evidently.. a point not taken.

So.. why do we humans.. sometimes.. choose chaos over order.. ?

There must be some advantages.

But what.. ?

Back on topic.. ;-)

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25 Sep 2008, 7:19 pm

I think we want order and that is what causes more chaos.

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25 Sep 2008, 7:19 pm

ShawnWilliam wrote:

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'Occam's razor' is a staple of logic and it applies to many of your posts.

Woopty f**** do.

Yeah whoopty fuckin doo

You make massive logical errors in almost every post

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You suck the life out of my words for one, by ignoring their true intent/meaning. Two, you suck the life out of just about any serious topic by showing up with nothing but a can of worms.

That's not 'bloodsucking', in a literal or figurative sense.

ShawnWilliam wrote:

that demonstrates your inability perfectly to think outside of the box; the box being your field of expertise

I'm an English as a second language tutor, which means that I spend a lot of time of most every day not contemplating math.

Also not math:

Magnus wrote:

I think we want order and that is what causes more chaos.

When you want order, you have to strike a balance. Unfortunately, anarchy is not conducive to balance, at least not for now. And I disagree with laws and government in principle at least as much as you do.

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25 Sep 2008, 7:35 pm

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So is it possible then, that these people responsible for these meaningless laws have a greater source other than a few aristocrats in politics?..

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