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Is abortion Murder?
No 65%  65%  [ 15 ]
Yes 17%  17%  [ 4 ]
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01 Aug 2009, 12:43 pm

if a child is not meant to be brorn nature/god will take of it. but in extreme cases when problems are forseen then it should be allowed an unwanted child should be atopted not aborted. no it's not classified as murder but it is a waste of a human life who could do anything.


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01 Aug 2009, 12:55 pm

scorpileo wrote:
if a child is not meant to be brorn nature/god will take of it. but in extreme cases when problems are forseen then it should be allowed an unwanted child should be atopted not aborted. no it's not classified as murder but it is a waste of a human life who could do anything.


But can you tell when a child is meant to be aborted?



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01 Aug 2009, 1:25 pm

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if a child is not meant to be brorn nature/god will take of it. but in extreme cases when problems are forseen then it should be allowed an unwanted child should be atopted not aborted. no it's not classified as murder but it is a waste of a human life who could do anything.

Every time you masturbate it is also a 'waste of human life that could do anything'.


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01 Aug 2009, 1:30 pm

Sand wrote:
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if a child is not meant to be brorn nature/god will take of it. but in extreme cases when problems are forseen then it should be allowed an unwanted child should be atopted not aborted. no it's not classified as murder but it is a waste of a human life who could do anything.


But can you tell when a child is meant to be aborted?


me, no docters with the equipment.. yes

I meant promblems which would endanger bother mother and offspring or if the offspring has a deformity that would make they're life differcult..such as heart/brain problem or certain genectic disorde.


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01 Aug 2009, 1:32 pm

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if a child is not meant to be brorn nature/god will take of it. but in extreme cases when problems are forseen then it should be allowed an unwanted child should be atopted not aborted. no it's not classified as murder but it is a waste of a human life who could do anything.

Every time you masturbate it is also a 'waste of human life that could do anything'.



no as that sperm can and will be replaced and sperm die all the time.


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01 Aug 2009, 1:37 pm

scorpileo wrote:
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if a child is not meant to be brorn nature/god will take of it. but in extreme cases when problems are forseen then it should be allowed an unwanted child should be atopted not aborted. no it's not classified as murder but it is a waste of a human life who could do anything.

Every time you masturbate it is also a 'waste of human life that could do anything'.



no as that sperm can and will be replaced and sperm die all the time.

But it's still a 'waste of human life that could do anything'. Where do you draw the line?


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01 Aug 2009, 1:44 pm

when the sperm cell joins with the egg to form an unique geanectic code that willl never be repeated (Idecticle siblings excluded)

my DNA is unique there has never been a code like mine or anyones for that matter... apart from cloning but thats another issue


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01 Aug 2009, 1:50 pm

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when the sperm cell joins with the egg to form an unique geanectic code that willl never be repeated (Idecticle siblings excluded)

my DNA is unique there has never been a code like mine or anyones for that matter... apart from cloning but thats another issue

Ah, but when you kill that sperm cell you are also hindering it from joining with the egg to form an unique genetic code that will never be repeated.

Also, what does an 'unique genetic code' have to do with, well, anything?


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01 Aug 2009, 2:08 pm

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scorpileo wrote:
when the sperm cell joins with the egg to form an unique geanectic code that willl never be repeated (Idecticle siblings excluded)

my DNA is unique there has never been a code like mine or anyones for that matter... apart from cloning but thats another issue

Ah, but when you kill that sperm cell you are also hindering it from joining with the egg to form an unique genetic code that will never be repeated.

Also, what does an 'unique genetic code' have to do with, well, anything?


ill move away from masturbation as it's off topic.. but your right it is a waste of life.

thr unique genectic code is what makes the unborn offspring so special there won't another one like it....


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01 Aug 2009, 2:12 pm

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ill move away from masturbation as it's off topic.. but your right it is a waste of life.

I wasn't claiming that it was a 'waste of life' as such, I was just trying to follow your reasoning.

Masturbation is not off-topic as according to your reasoning masturbation would also be a 'waste of life'.
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thr unique genectic code is what makes the unborn offspring so special there won't another one like it....

And what relevance does that have?


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01 Aug 2009, 2:16 pm

scorpileo wrote:
Henriksson wrote:
scorpileo wrote:
when the sperm cell joins with the egg to form an unique geanectic code that willl never be repeated (Idecticle siblings excluded)

my DNA is unique there has never been a code like mine or anyones for that matter... apart from cloning but thats another issue

Ah, but when you kill that sperm cell you are also hindering it from joining with the egg to form an unique genetic code that will never be repeated.

Also, what does an 'unique genetic code' have to do with, well, anything?


ill move away from masturbation as it's off topic.. but your right it is a waste of life.

thr unique genectic code is what makes the unborn offspring so special there won't another one like it....


And anytime a guy decides to marry one girl and not another, is that a waste of life considering every combination would be unique? Perhaps, by that thought, if a guy does not impregnate every girl he comes across he is wasting a unique combination and therefore should not avoid any opportunity to render any woman pregnant, whatever the circumstances.



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01 Aug 2009, 2:20 pm

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ill move away from masturbation as it's off topic.. but your right it is a waste of life.

I wasn't claiming that it was a 'waste of life' as such, I was just trying to follow your reasoning.

Masturbation is not off-topic as according to your reasoning masturbation would also be a 'waste of life'.
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thr unique genectic code is what makes the unborn offspring so special there won't another one like it....

And what relevance does that have?


(face palm) if every one was rthe same it wouldn't matter who died it wouldn't matter realy.. it's our unique chararter traits and such like that people miss... cann some one help me explain..? does anyone follow my train off thought?


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01 Aug 2009, 2:26 pm

Sand wrote:
scorpileo wrote:
Henriksson wrote:
scorpileo wrote:
when the sperm cell joins with the egg to form an unique geanectic code that willl never be repeated (Idecticle siblings excluded)

my DNA is unique there has never been a code like mine or anyones for that matter... apart from cloning but thats another issue

Ah, but when you kill that sperm cell you are also hindering it from joining with the egg to form an unique genetic code that will never be repeated.

Also, what does an 'unique genetic code' have to do with, well, anything?


ill move away from masturbation as it's off topic.. but your right it is a waste of life.

thr unique genectic code is what makes the unborn offspring so special there won't another one like it....


And anytime a guy decides to marry one girl and not another, is that a waste of life considering every combination would be unique? Perhaps, by that thought, if a guy does not impregnate every girl he comes across he is wasting a unique combination and therefore should not avoid any opportunity to render any woman pregnant, whatever the circumstances.


ignore morals yes that is true after all many animal are like this... for human here could be forced donations , buts that being extreme


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01 Aug 2009, 2:26 pm

scorpileo wrote:
Henriksson wrote:
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ill move away from masturbation as it's off topic.. but your right it is a waste of life.

I wasn't claiming that it was a 'waste of life' as such, I was just trying to follow your reasoning.

Masturbation is not off-topic as according to your reasoning masturbation would also be a 'waste of life'.
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thr unique genectic code is what makes the unborn offspring so special there won't another one like it....

And what relevance does that have?


(face palm) if every one was rthe same it wouldn't matter who died it wouldn't matter realy.. it's our unique chararter traits and such like that people miss... cann some one help me explain..? does anyone follow my train off thought?


In these circumstances perhaps a cabbage palm, a royal palm or a coconut palm would be appropriate but a face palm is off limits.



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01 Aug 2009, 2:33 pm

what..... ? are you saying that i have a face made of cabbage and/or coccanut ill try my face in cooking then.
perhap a coccanut and cabbage smoothie or coccanut coslaw... :o


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01 Aug 2009, 2:35 pm

scorpileo wrote:
Henriksson wrote:
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ill move away from masturbation as it's off topic.. but your right it is a waste of life.

I wasn't claiming that it was a 'waste of life' as such, I was just trying to follow your reasoning.

Masturbation is not off-topic as according to your reasoning masturbation would also be a 'waste of life'.
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thr unique genectic code is what makes the unborn offspring so special there won't another one like it....

And what relevance does that have?


(face palm) if every one was rthe same it wouldn't matter who died it wouldn't matter realy.. it's our unique chararter traits and such like that people miss... cann some one help me explain..? does anyone follow my train off thought?

I think you will have to elaborate your argument, as since all genetic codes are unique, the genetic code of a particular fetus (or sperm potentially becoming a unique genetic code) ultimately doesn't matter, since everyone will end up being unique anyway.

And it's the shape the individual has taken throughout his/her life that people will miss him/her for, the genetic code is just one of the factors in that process.


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