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12 Oct 2009, 9:44 pm

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what??? irrational?? you're calling me irrational??! !

damn selfish male chauvinistic pig! aaargh!

*cries*

:lol:


He he...



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12 Oct 2009, 10:57 pm

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Image -< It is because they are not taught to control their emotions >


Yes. When I see kids at the playground who hit, they are told strictly that it is forbidden. Yet, when girls play emotional games that bully, they go under the radar and that only serves to sharpen their manipulative weapons. Boys learn at an early age that rage is something to be controlled. Boys hit more than girls do on average. Girls are not taught that subtle forms of aggresive (manipulative) behavior is forbidden. When they are scolded for manipulative bullying that is apparent, they learn to disguise it into more subtle, cunning ways. Girls learn how to be stronger emotional bullies who can't control her emotions whereas boys learn right away that physical emotional outbursts are not to be tolerated.

It's nature and nurture. I see boys getting the raw end of the stick more though when it comes to nurture.


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12 Oct 2009, 10:59 pm

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Why are women so irrational, subjective and hyper emotional?
Is it nature or nurture?
I say its nature.


Why are obvious trolls so obvious?
Is it an inability to be subtle with trolling or just generally being boring?
I say it's probably the latter.


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12 Oct 2009, 11:07 pm

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Well... here's what I would think.

I think that this is somewhat nature. Why? Because I think that beliefs like "rationalism" are status-seeking, and tend to challenge the social framework, something that would be advantageous for ambitious young men. However, I would think that being emotional and personal would be more female because it would be more advantageous to women. The reason being that male reproduction is going to be more of a function of having the status required to "be a success". For women, reproduction is going to be more of a function of relating to people, a skill which is less focused on this notion we often call "rationality" and more upon working within a social context.

Do I think that either side is really more rational? No. Both are just adapted to what suits them. Men aren't just being rationalists for the purposes of seeking "truth" but rather they likely are just tempted by the ability to show themselves as "better" than other men, and their "rationalism" is likely in part a bunch of dirty hacks in order to show their superiority.

That being said, I would imagine that personality is going to be a very significant factor between individuals. Also, I would not be surprised if there is a significant level of culture involved.

And yes, this is all just guesses, so if anyone thinks I am being stupid here, I probably am, but I hope I am not making unreasonable guesses.


You make perfect sense as always AG :hail:


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12 Oct 2009, 11:20 pm

Magnus wrote:
Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Well... here's what I would think.

I think that this is somewhat nature. Why? Because I think that beliefs like "rationalism" are status-seeking, and tend to challenge the social framework, something that would be advantageous for ambitious young men. However, I would think that being emotional and personal would be more female because it would be more advantageous to women. The reason being that male reproduction is going to be more of a function of having the status required to "be a success". For women, reproduction is going to be more of a function of relating to people, a skill which is less focused on this notion we often call "rationality" and more upon working within a social context.

Do I think that either side is really more rational? No. Both are just adapted to what suits them. Men aren't just being rationalists for the purposes of seeking "truth" but rather they likely are just tempted by the ability to show themselves as "better" than other men, and their "rationalism" is likely in part a bunch of dirty hacks in order to show their superiority.

That being said, I would imagine that personality is going to be a very significant factor between individuals. Also, I would not be surprised if there is a significant level of culture involved.

And yes, this is all just guesses, so if anyone thinks I am being stupid here, I probably am, but I hope I am not making unreasonable guesses.


You make perfect sense as always AG :hail:


AG always makes the most sense out of this board and yet for some reason he doesn't make sense but then it does and I don't know why..... :huh: :wink:


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12 Oct 2009, 11:21 pm

Fbthew wrote:
Why are women so irrational, subjective and hyper emotional?

Loaded question:
Why Fbthew is so irrational, subjective, hyper-emotional, and a deluded troll?


As to wether women are irrational or not, if they are that could be because men are irrational too or that people are irrational

As to wether women are subjective, men would be subjective as well, and in most cases, and about everything, people, regardless of gender, are subjective anyway.

As wether women are hyper emotional or not, it depends on your definition of what is hyper-emotional, and I can say that very likely there would be disagreements on what you would consider as such.


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12 Oct 2009, 11:24 pm

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AG always makes the most sense out of this board and yet for some reason he doesn't make sense but then it does and I don't know why..... :huh: :wink:

AG is Awesomely glorious!


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13 Oct 2009, 5:23 pm

I thought it was numbers that were irrational...;)
unless there's a woman around rooting for a negative square one...;)

Women, are....women. After a half-century, that's all I can say with confidence...;)


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13 Oct 2009, 5:31 pm

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I thought it was numbers that were irrational...;)
unless there's a woman around rooting for a negative square one...;)


There may be no i in team, but there is an i in the square root of negative one...;)



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13 Oct 2009, 6:10 pm

pakled wrote:
Women, are....women. After a half-century, that's all I can say with confidence...;)

People are.... people. I am not sure that more can be said with confidence on that matter.



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13 Oct 2009, 6:20 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
pakled wrote:
Women, are....women. After a half-century, that's all I can say with confidence...;)

People are.... people. I am not sure that more can be said with confidence on that matter.


Isn't that a Depeche Mode song? lol


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13 Oct 2009, 6:23 pm

Magnus wrote:
You make perfect sense as always AG :hail:

Oh thanks.

MissConstrue wrote:
AG always makes the most sense out of this board and yet for some reason he doesn't make sense but then it does and I don't know why..... :huh: :wink:

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AG is Awesomely glorious!

Yes. Yes I am.



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13 Oct 2009, 6:26 pm

pat2rome wrote:
Isn't that a Depeche Mode song? lol

People are people
So why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully
People are people
So why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully

So were different colours
And were different creeds
And different people
Have different needs
Its obvious you hate me
Though Ive done nothing wrong
Ive never even met you
So what could I have done
I cant understand
What makes a man
Hate another man
Help me understand
People are people
So why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully
People are people
So why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully
Help me understand
Help me understand

Now you're punching
And you're kicking
And you're shouting at me
And Im relying on your common decency
So far it hasnt surfaced
But Im sure it exists
It just takes a while to travel
From your head to your fist (head to your fists)
I cant understand what makes a man
Hate another man
Help me understand
People are people
So why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully
People are people
So why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully

I cant understand
What makes a man
Hate another man
Help me understand
I cant understand
What makes a man
Hate another man
Help me understand
I cant understand
What makes a man
Hate another man
I cant understand (people are people)
What makes a man (why should it be)
Hate another man
Help me understand...



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13 Oct 2009, 7:51 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A1iBN3ZJXE[/youtube]



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14 Oct 2009, 4:24 am

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A1iBN3ZJXE[/youtube]


Bedazzled and My Best Friend's Girlfriend were both great movies. I think the fine point that a lot of people miss is that overbearing behavior is overbearing behavior - being on the receiving end of someone being so nice that it seems completely arbitrary, for long stretches of time is...well...really annoying and out of touch.



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14 Oct 2009, 4:46 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
Fbthew wrote:
Why are women so irrational, subjective and hyper emotional?
Is it nature or nurture?
I say its nature.


Why are obvious trolls so obvious?
Is it an inability to be subtle with trolling or just generally being boring?
I say it's probably the latter.


A troll? or is he just a particularly subjective, irrational and naive poster. I am waiting for a him to post something rational and objective. Unlesssssssss????? yes that must be it!! !! !! !! ! Fbthew is really a woman, because surely such a subjective and irrational post cannot have emanated from the male of the species


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