Asperger's and Atheism

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I have friends that are athiests but I am a very spiritual person...meaning I feel a spiritual connection with other beings human and/or animal, plant, tree, rock etc and with the divine spirit who I believe has many names.

Athiests facinate me, not because I want to be one, but the independant reasoning that is their nature. I tried to be athiest.....I really tried in a spiritual crisis, but I could not...not because of fear of damnation, but I could not deny the spiritual connection that I felt with all living things. I am very sensitive to energy. I am also somewhat psychic, and I can read ppl's minds pretty well that it creeps people out. I think that I use the spiritual to make up for my social limitations. I am aware that to an athiest, this is all gibberish, and I understand that people can only draw upon their own experiences to come to what they conclude about the existance of spirit.

I also dont believe in organized religion because it is mostly political and has nothing really to do with spirit when you get down to it. I guess that makes me an agnostic of sorts, but there is a liberation in being spiritual without the bounds of religion...it is freeing and whole at the same time.

I also have kind of a an animistic view of life which is reflected in my poetry and is because of my native american roots. To me, rocks are living things...when I hold a piece of hard cold lava, I feel its powerful creative raw energy. If someone were to hand me a rock that felt like lava in texture and hand me lava, each in two hands...blindfolded, I could tell you which one is lava by its energy.

It is hard to explain spiritual energy to someone who does not feel it as acutely I do. It is like the feeling you get when somone is behind you...until you turn around, you cannot sense them with your five senses, but you know someone is there because you can feel their energy.

I dont believe that people who dont believe as I do or anyone else does go to hell. The divine spirit from what I know is not a meglomaniac.

I also believe in reincarnation. to me, it only makes sense that everything in the universe is in a cycle, so why would our spirits be any different?

I also believe in what I call guided evolution...its like a combo of creationism and evolution. I think that evolution gives credit to the divine spirit rather than discrediting him/her/it because it takes creative genious create a process that continues to recreate itself. That is a heck of alot smarter than pointing a finger and it is created is seven days.

But all things concidered, I love my athiest friends for their brawn, intelegence, determined independance, and the fact they put up with me even though they think I am a lovable nut.

I dont see a corratlation realy if there is one it is slight.

By defination I am christian as in II follow Christ and use the bible as a gidebook not an instruction manual

C.P.Snow definitely tried to pull off a snow job in his concept of two cultures intimating that scientists were stupid about humanities and all people of an artistic viewpoint were dumb about science. Claude Raines might have pissed off some people in starring in a film about an invisible man where he was not seen for the bulk of the film.

Gadzooks! You are a True Aspie without a scintilla of humor. One might think a person in his 80s would have learned to simulate humor.

ruveyn

I agree with this. I'm spiritual but not religious, following my own path, which draws on some writings, practices and beliefs from religion, but is unique to me and my perspective.

I tend to see any organized religion as mostly a power structure that's necessarily self-sustaining and has little to do with a Higher Power except in name only. That's not to say that I'm against all religion. I think it's good for some people, and that there are those who need the stability and support of a group of others who believe as they do. Nothing wrong with that.

I don't find spiritual belief all that illogical. I think that certain elements of spirituality can be studied. Carl Jung believed for instance that mediums and ESP deserved study. He even conducted some studies of astrology. He came up with his idea of Synchronicity, and he was both logical and scientific. He's even now believed to have been an Aspie. When asked if he believed in God, he said, "I don't believe. I know." There's the Institute of Noetic Sciences, and the work by the University of Arizona. Various other scientific groups study phenomena that some consider spiritual in nature. Many people see quantum physics as answering some spiritual questions. There's a healing system based on quantum physics that some also consider spiritual (Matrix Energetics). I've tried it, it works for me, and those I know of who have attended the seminars report medical doctors (scientists) in attendance.

It makes logical sense to me to study the possibility that there's more to the universe than meets the eye, as well as emotional sense for me to have my personal belief set.

Buddhism encourages only believing what one knows to be true.

One of my beliefs is that when/if all is ever known by humankind, we'll see that spirit exists and therefore isn't really just a belief, but a dimension of reality we're only at times subtly aware of in our present state of existence.

Actually I have dozen or so scintilla's of humor but I only use one on special occasions.

I can't be the first one to notice there seems to be relatively high percentage of atheists/agnostics among people with Aspergers Syndrome.

haha! I like this thread - thanks guys. I ignored it previously because it didn't interest me but it's just come back to the top of the pile so I thought I might have a peak at what I thought was going to be some secret atheist meeting or something! lol And anyhow it turns out I can respond to this thread because I'm a buddhist but if I was born into a predominately buddhist society I'd doubt I'd be a buddhist. I'd have to find something else. I tried really hard to fit into a buddhist community - but participating in anything 'group' related makes me feel like an idiot.

My parents were non-religious but I never heard them mention atheists. Whenever they filled out forms for my school they wrote 'Nil' next to the question of religion. I always thought it was a sign of lower intelligence to believe in god.

The first time I went to a church service I was 18 years old. When all the people found out that it was my first time they invited me to their houses - it was almost like there was an invitation for every night of the week. So of course, with that kind of over-bearing hospitality I never went back again! lol