Drapetomaniac wrote:
What's human exactly. Did Neanderthals had a soul if animals don't?
Now there is a point.
I started looking into this thread but there is a non-negligible amount of silliness, but that is an important point.
Of course, on the issue of souls the jury is out and will stay out. I will figure pending more data that I have soul and assume the extrapolation to all other humans. There is no usable evidence one way or the other outside humanity - maybe the rocks and the ginkgo and the cockroaches know but they are not telling and we have not built one sole soul detector.
But neanderthalensis and the rest of Homo and all the hominids - I have tried to talk about this with my paleontologist brother but he preferrs not to talk with me, and my personal expert on hominids is for reasons we will not go into available for comment.
I got interested when some decades back some got to saying neanderthalensis was incapable of human language - on the basis that reconstructions of the oral tract predicted a range of possible vocalizations differebt from sapiens, incredibly naive, as if "human language" is defined by what noises you can make.
You find other types basing a line between neanderthalensis and whatever sapiens has morphed into [Latinists - do you not today begin to doubt that is an appropriate descriptor?] on such things and cranial capacity, relative size of cerebral divisions, reconstructed social structure, and all. Amazing how many really WANT them NOT to be human.
So one wonders:
If it could be shown that non humans do not have souls - which so far cannot be shown except by building it into the premises. CAN it be shown neanderthalensis through the australopithecines are NOT human and therefore soulless?
Does soulitude [intentional - humorous] relate somehow to size and complexity nd esifgn of the brain? If so, how would that be handled by those - like me - who assume the soul is NOT material and NOT a function of the physical organism?
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You will understand that what follows is gut and not head, that this has no weight as argument or testimony whatever. Pure speculation, scientifically worthless save insofar that it might stimulate research:
I personally tend to think neanderthalensis as human as we are, just differently human.
Non-homo hominids - I would not want to bet one way or another, too little available to me even for informal; speculation.
Whatever one may decide for dolphins, ravens, tuataras, or giant squid - again I do not speculate - I personally tend to think neanderthalensis was soul-equipped, and that some of them are outside laughing about this.