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05 Mar 2010, 2:03 am

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

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Obviously the technologically motivated gather at one place and that is a false indication of a general concept.

Umm... yes, the technologically motivated gather at one place and have autistic children. How does this not show a general concept?

There is an accepted genetic factor in autism. That does not deny the possibility of other factors.

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05 Mar 2010, 2:03 am

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Also I have heard that there is something like this on Earth. In Japan there is a colony of ASD people living together working together. Anyone got info on that?

I haven't heard about this. It might be true, but I would be incredibly surprised. For one, land prices in Japan are relatively high, so, usually communes exist in areas that have a lot of free space, like the US Midwest. Additionally, I doubt that all of the Aspies would get together like that. I mean, most libertarians haven't moved to New Hampshire and that's a group with bigger unifying tendencies than neurological similarity. Thirdly, it wouldn't sustain itself. The gender ratio would be too skewed for the commune to survive.

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05 Mar 2010, 2:06 am

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There is an accepted genetic factor in autism. That does not deny the possibility of other factors.

Ok, so I was sloppy in assessing the matter of "genetics PLUS environment". So what? I don't consider the idea that credible without more definition to it. Especially given that this chemical change has to happen at a very early age and given that a lot of environmental factors peaked and declined before the modern generation of aspies, which has tended to be larger.

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05 Mar 2010, 2:07 am

Hmm you mean ASD people have a higher rate of male than females?

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05 Mar 2010, 2:15 am

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Hmm you mean ASD people have a higher rate of male than females?

Yes. Significantly so.

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05 Mar 2010, 2:16 am

so if a couple has a kid, most likely it will be a boy?

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05 Mar 2010, 2:22 am

Any ladies here? I also heard that ASD girls are often undiagnosed. Is that true?

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05 Mar 2010, 3:01 am

In ASD people, women tend to be less diagnosed than men.

AS does not likely impact the likelihood of getting a Y chromosome. Instead, it is likely that having a Y chromosome causes AS to be be more likely to be expressed when it is in the genes. There are a number of conditions that impact men more often than women.

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05 Mar 2010, 3:09 am

Oh really? How come... anyway I made a topic relating to this in the woman's section. As my group also has yet to encounter a female ASD yet so they are curious to know how a girl with ASD differs from those money-grubbing, chemical painting girls out there.

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07 Mar 2010, 10:06 pm

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In all probability, it would not function. Humans are a social species, we do not survive well outside of groups and autistics are terrible at forming groups.

Says who? Assuming perfect knowledge and understating of different people's strengths, we know that autistics, given 'instructions', can live as a group together.

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08 Mar 2010, 8:35 pm

[quote="Orwell"]They call those "university math departments."[/quote

Or TED conferences.

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08 Mar 2010, 10:36 pm

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Hm I think we can say that the citizens of Aspergia would be having food with less sugar. Sugarcane plantations would be less abundant on this planet. So is salt.

I'd be glad to be the proud owner of the first big rum distillery on Aspergia, that way we can put the extra cane to good use. I'm thinking something with a high quality whiskey-ish kick

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08 Mar 2010, 10:44 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

I've always wondered though whether its literally non-expression or if its the fact that women just have twice the social processing power, by nature, and the effects are thus a bit less noteworthy on their rote social skills?

I've always thought it was a huge misnomer when people always describe it as a social learning disability, that's only the tip of the iceberg, its an alternative wiring schema altogether where social issues only come as secondary effect. In that case I'd imagine the other 4 out of 5 girls are just rather awkward or esoteric NTs.

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09 Mar 2010, 3:02 am

We could have a community of tech experts, a community of math academics, a community of social scientists ... basically they will gather in groups with those of similar interests. The difference is that unlike NT's there will be less small talk and a lot more serious discussion or gaming. All sorts of food should be present, especially pizza and big chunks of meat. For the connoisseurs something gourmet.

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09 Mar 2010, 5:02 am

Orwell wrote:

In all probability, it would not function. Humans are a social species, we do not survive well outside of groups and autistics are terrible at forming groups.

But there is an autistic spectrum. Not all auties or aspies are anti-social or a-social.

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09 Mar 2010, 6:06 am

we wouldn't live in total isolation from NT's. But of course we would escape from them more often than we do now. Maybe we could have it as some sort of retreat like a spa or nudist colony.

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