Israel threatens to wipe out Europe with nuclear bombs

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19 Mar 2010, 10:15 am

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Israel has nukes and they would only use them in a manner such as that under the Sampson Option.

Should Israel be overcome by her enemies, before she falls she would launch every one of her nukes to destroy the nations coming against her.

It's a simple "dead man's" switch. The only reason Israel would have to press the button is that her enemies have invaded and are trying to destroy her. If Europe decides to join in with those who want to invade, it would be targeted.


Think of it as the SAD strategy: Sampson Assured Destruction. In the story in The Book of Judges, Sampson brought the roof down on the Philistines which is ironic, considering that Palestinian is derived from Philistine.


So the only solution is to totally destroy Israel well before that SAD structure can be made effective. The have, in effect, carried the psychology of the suicide bomber to a national level.



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19 Mar 2010, 11:06 am

Send cukes, not nukes topic

Be careful what you wish for, Sand. The destruction of any nation on earth destroys us all.


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19 Mar 2010, 11:21 am

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Send cukes, not nukes topic

Be careful what you wish for, Sand. The destruction of any nation on earth destroys us all.


well some of us have already accepted the fact that there will only ever be peace once all life is out of the equation >_>


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19 Mar 2010, 12:14 pm

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So the only solution is to totally destroy Israel well before that SAD structure can be made effective. The have, in effect, carried the psychology of the suicide bomber to a national level.


When was the last Israeli suicide bombing in recent times? Jews tend no to do that. That last big Suicide for the Jews was (if you believe Josephus), the mass Suicide at Massada which was nearly 2000 years ago. If you want to characterized the Jewish approach, try eye for eye; the law of retaliation. The Israelis have put a price tag on their lives. They cannot be had for free or by default.

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19 Mar 2010, 12:35 pm

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You may very well be right, but doesn't this pose the question as to why certain countries are allowed to have nuclear weapons and others not? I guess when you are a superpower you can do as you will. History surely backs me up on that statement. (That's an opinion of mine, I'm not quoting a textbook or anything. Mainly because you should never believe what textbooks say)

I suppose the world just has to believe these "BULLY" countries, who do as they please, that they will not nuke anyone to kingdom come. :roll:

As far as Europe being a target though I am skeptical. The next target for Israel and the US, will be Syria.


It is very simple. Those countries that have nukes get to keep them. Those countries that do not (yet) have nukes are harrassed and bullied by countries that do have nukes not to get them. It is purely arbitrary and quite expedient. If you are looking for a universal ethical basis for this nonsense, stop right now. You will not find it.

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ok who is trying to get nukes lately, north korea and iran. both places famously known for their geo-political instability. iran with their muslam fundalmentalists dont even need a missle, they have plenty of people ready to strap a nuke to their chest and blow it up anywhere. korea doesnt bother as much. these guys have been blowing smoke for years, there grand missle technology splashed into the bay after what 300 feet?. these guys know that the second they turn the missles on we would have already dropped another bomb in preperation of turning south korea into a damn island


Who do you think caused the instability of Iran in the first place? Yes, the US.

Muslim fundamentalists. The enemies of the "Free" World. Always ready to blow anything up. The US and Israel are different, their intentions are only noble.

If the bully countries want to be sure that no one else is able to arm themselves as they do, what weapon (far greater than any explosive) will they use to make sure that everyone becomes opposed to others growing their arsenal? Propaganda. Let's face it, the world associates violent behaviour with Muslims and Muslim countries only because of Propaganda. Anyone showing resistance to these bully states, are labeled as "terrorists".

Everyone is so afraid of what Iran or Iraq might do. Has either of these or any other Muslim country waged war on anyone? NO. But no one afraid of what The US has (not might, but has done). Did you know that since WWII the US has bombed at least 50 countries? So why is it that the US has support, and the "terrorists" don't? You are being brainwashed, that's why.

I would recommend watching the movie "WEAPONS OF MASS DECEPTION".


im not afraid of iran. im afraid of one person in iran. all it takes is one pissed off person to bring the world to a halt. im not saying america is any better we have crazy people. even before we were in the middle east muslam extreamists were preaching the destrustion of america.

im no politician im just a guy. not a racist but honestly cant tell kurds shites apart. what i know of the war is what im told and anyone with half a mind knows we are lied to about it. cause the plain truth is no one cares over here.



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19 Mar 2010, 1:25 pm

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Send cukes, not nukes topic

Be careful what you wish for, Sand. The destruction of any nation on earth destroys us all.


You are wildly misinterpreting my comments. Primarily I view the OP as nonsense and if one Israeli idiot threatens all of Europe with atomic destruction I don't imagine all Israelis are scatterbrained enough to take him seriously. But, if he is to be taken seriously then it is Israel that is in danger, not Europe. Any real use of atomic weaponry will bring retribution that will wipe Israel off the map.



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19 Mar 2010, 2:35 pm

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im not afraid of iran. im afraid of one person in iran. all it takes is one pissed off person to bring the world to a halt. im not saying america is any better we have crazy people. even before we were in the middle east muslam extreamists were preaching the destrustion of america.

im no politician im just a guy. not a racist but honestly cant tell kurds shites apart. what i know of the war is what im told and anyone with half a mind knows we are lied to about it. cause the plain truth is no one cares over here.



I'm sorry but I have to disagree with your view about Muslim extremists. The term Muslim extremists didn't even exist until America started nosing around in the Middle East. Did you know that during the first few months of the formation of Israel most "terrorist" attacks were carried out by Jews? They did not want to accept limitations imposed on them by Britain. They wanted Israel all to themselves.

After world war II the US started their true relationship with the middle east. That's what gave rise to US opposition. Arabs in general felt that the US were invading their right to freedom.
The truth is, if America and Britain did not involve themselves in the Middle East, you wouldn't know what a Muslim Extremist is.

It's truly a sad thing if no one in the US cares about the wars going on around the world. They need to speak up against it. It's all about public opinion. That's why so many people question what actually happened on 9/11. After the attacks the average American was willing to allow their government to do anything for fear of being attacked again.

It's unfortunate that so many westerners, are distracted by celebrities and sports that they don't even realise what tyranny is happening in front of their very eyes.



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19 Mar 2010, 2:47 pm

so you do want america to police the world, just not your part of it. sorry about the muslam extreamist but what would you call people who thru there relegious beliefs attack people for no reason than that they dissagree with them.......keep in mind that catholic is already taken.

and the jews cant be helped, how many times have we tried to find a peaceful solution, that no one wants. how many people have died to claim that particular slice of land. that region breeds conflict. take america completly out of the equation those countries still wont get along with each other



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19 Mar 2010, 2:58 pm

No America has no right to police anywhere. They can try and take care of their own patch for once. The US has an alarming murder rate, organised crime, a poor health and education system (I was shocked to learn that 20% of Americans can't even locate their own country on an atlas). America is riddled with gangs, drugs and violence.

The thing is you have to understand what an extremist is. If someone feels that because he is Muslim he has the right to kill anyone who isn't, then he is just an extremist. Muslims are not allowed to murder anyone, for any reason. Suicide is forbidden as well. The term "jihad" doesn't actually mean holy war. It means one should fight against temptation. It's in most part got nothing to do weapons or violence. But I guess you didn't know any of this? That wouldn't surprise me. You are bombarded with other information as to what Muslims are.



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19 Mar 2010, 3:04 pm

i am aware thw true islam preaches peace. but thats not what i see. you say murder isnt allowed. bombs ment for us troops kill muslam men women and kids. suicide is bad but a suicde bomber is praised by most of the people.

please enlighten me as to my temptation? how am i tempting muslams? pretend there is no america for a second why do a select few muslams want to kill me?



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19 Mar 2010, 3:16 pm

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i am aware thw true islam preaches peace. but thats not what i see. you say murder isnt allowed. bombs ment for us troops kill muslam men women and kids. suicide is bad but a suicde bomber is praised by most of the people.

please enlighten me as to my temptation? how am i tempting muslams? pretend there is no america for a second why do a select few muslams want to kill me?


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19 Mar 2010, 3:19 pm

why cant you do you own thing and let me do mine. nothing personal against you guys but damn you are half way around the globe what do you care what i do.



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19 Mar 2010, 3:22 pm

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why cant you do you own thing and let me do mine. nothing personal against you guys but damn you are half way around the globe what do you care what i do.


Allah has commanded them, so they believe.

Opposing devout Muslims is like fighting the Terminator. You can't reason with it. You can only submit, hide or die.

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19 Mar 2010, 3:30 pm

my god told hitler the same thing. the point is its not good business.

god doesnt want people dead its the person who intreprets god that wants people dead.

i like the terminator analogy. when the computers took over it was no problem. it was only when humans truely had their backs against the wall when they fought and kicked some tin cans



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19 Mar 2010, 3:33 pm

What I mean by fighting temptation, is fighting your desires. Your desires to commit sin. I think you misunderstood my point. You are not a temptation. :lol:

How do you know that suicide bombers are praised? The thing is, that those bombs are only there because US troops are there in the first place.

You see you're not getting my point. You associate violent behaviour towards America as being a Muslim thing. That is not true. No religion preaches hate, only peace. It's the same for Christians and Jews. Some people however use religion as their reason for the violence they commit. But that doesn't mean that everyone of that faith is violent. If you were to go any Muslim country (barring Iraq) no one would do you a thing because you are American. Do you know how many westerners live and work in the Middle East? If every Muslim hates an American, don't you think that wars would be fought on the streets between the average Muslim and these westerners?

You have to understand that if the US never poked it's nose in the middle east, no one would have any resentment towards them. The average Muslim in the Middle East or anywhere else, would not do you a thing if you came into contact with them. Why? Because they are not allowed to. As I said, murder is forbidden.

Do you know how many innocent people have died because of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? That's due to US soldiers. The point is if America is so afraid of extremists why do they invade the countries before described? Won't it just bring about more hatred?



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19 Mar 2010, 3:41 pm

alright then im putting this on your shoulders.......go over there and handle your business. get your people together and track down these people corrupting your god by killing people. get the muslam community together ans say hey you guys kill people, the rest of us dont think you should be muslams any more. do that and i promise i will never set foot in the middle east. my word as a gentleman