Stigma of the Tea Party?

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Another common assumption is that the teabaggers are homophobic queers.



Most of them didn't give a damn how their tax dollars were being spent, or about the deficit, so long as their buddy George Bush was running up the tab. Now that a Mulatto is president, they are suddenly up in arms about tax dollars and the deficit, even though President Obama wouldn't dream of raising any of their taxes.

And, I think that Ann Coulter looks like an older, thinner version of Lady Gaga. Is s/he a transexual?

Anne Coulter is just a skinny woman with a long neck.

I have to agree with some of the criticisms of the current Tea Party.

First off, it has been largely co-opted by the Neo-Conservatives (Anne Coulter, Hannity, Malkin), who are all for cutting everything but military spending.

Second, news stories have shown the TP people to be divided in two. Ron Paul people, and Sarah Palin Populists. The Paul people are largely libertarians, and the Palin People are social conservatives. While Ron Paul had his own tea parties in 2007 to protest the bailouts, the Social conservatives were silent as Bush did as he pleased.

Finally Sarah Palin. I like her as a persona well enough. She's cute and folksy, has a nice family, but she doesn't get it. As McCains running mate, she largely supported McCains stances on the bailouts and stimulus packages. She has even said that Obama would gain much more support if he would just "toughen up" on foreign policy, as if Obama being harder on the war on terror would magically cause the Tea Party movement to dissipate.....or would it?

Most of them didn't give a damn how their tax dollars were being spent, or about the deficit, so long as their buddy George Bush was running up the tab. Now that a Mulatto is president, they are suddenly up in arms about tax dollars and the deficit, even though President Obama wouldn't dream of raising any of their taxes.

And, I think that Ann Coulter looks like an older, thinner version of Lady Gaga. Is s/he a transexual?[/quote

I'm pretty sure a significant portion of the Tea Partiers are libertarians, not necessarily traditional religious war-mongering republicans, so I don't think you can make assumptions that they're all Bush supporters or they're only complaining for blind partisan reasons (although some could be). Libertarians (Not pseudo libertarians like Glenn Beck or Neal Boortz) generally didn't like George Bush's Iraq war or the patriot act, so I don't think they're friends of George Bush; they just hate the Democrat's big spending policies more.

I'm not even a libertarian myself, really (Although I lean that way often), but I don't think you can paint all or even the majority of Tea-Partiers as religious war-mongering nutjobs.

The teapartiers that get media coverage (including conservative media like Fox) don't tend to be the libertarian crowd. They tend to be the psycho theocrats or the people who are just an extension of the Republican party. Freedomworks, which sponsors a lot of the tea parties is basically a Republican organisation. I'm not saying all the tea partiers are like that, but when the "official" Fox News sponsored face of the teaparty is a redneck with a misspelled sign clamouring for government to get out of his Medicare, it's not going to look good.

That's true, but that's probably because Fox News promotes the nutjobs and traditional right wingers over the Ron Paul types. I think Fox News pretty much hates Ron Paul, or really, any viewpoint that doesn't fall in line with their traditional right wing viewpoints. Fox News, or really any media, is not going to promote someone who thinks outside the box of our traditional two-party system.

Oh come on, haven't you heard this kind of derisive comment before? Frankly, I just laughed. I don't care if someone calls Ann Coulter a man or a homosexual or whatever the heck they care to.

lol Ann Coulter is pretty nasty looking. She's one of the better talking heads probably but that's not saying much.

You are correct. None of the media will cover a third party as a good idea because the giant corporations pay their bills. The tea parties must be co-opted by the republicans and demonized by the democrats. Anything else is a threat to the current corporate control of the government.

Both Bush and Obama raided the national treasury and gave the money to their rich corporate friends. Unless we get a third party, politicians of both parties will continue to lead us into a feudal system where the corporate leaders are the royalty, and the rest of us are the serfs.

Corporate money controls the media and funds the campaigns of both parties It will take a miracle to get the government back into the hands of regular people. That is what the tea parties are about.

Although Ron Paul was/is a frequent guest on MSNBC and CNBC, I have been noticing he has been on CNN a great deal in the past year, and he has started appearing on Fox more. This may be an attempt by the media to establish some credibility despite their fiddling while the economy collapsed during the Bush years. It's a shame that Fox (with the exception of Judge Andrew Napolitano) gives Ron Paul airtime since he won CPAC and that its a democrat in the WH, even though they're getting ready to stab him in the back if he decides to run for president again. I think Rupert Murdoc feels Ron is too old to be a threat anymore, so it's fine to use him for some conservative credibility.

Well, Ann Coulter did pose for Playboy:

http://www.myleftwing.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=12893



They also did a conservative issue that featured Ann Coulter:



And, I remember Sarah Palin in Hustler.

the tea partyers are a bunch of right-wing demagogues who can't stand that a center-left candidate won the last democratic election, and are even further incensed that elections have consequences in a democracy. Statistically, they are more likely to be older than average, more likely to be devotees of Glen Beck than average, more than 50% male, more likely to be richer than average, and more likely to be racist than average.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/289821
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/ ... print.html
(quote: . ...30 percent believe Obama was born in a foreign country, for instance, and only a small minority think violent action against the government is justified. (A possible exception: if one regards disbelief in global warming as concomitant with a belief in a global warming 'conspiracy', that is one of the more characteristic beliefs of the movement.)
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/ ... izers.html

The first two graphs are horribly constructed polls that borderline trolling. You can't go up to people and say "What do you think of black people?" and give them a yes/no checkbox next to Hardworking/Intelligent/Trustworthy. This not only traps someone into a loaded question (As they have to think of a race as all the same just to answer it), it generalizes an entire race under broad adjectives, that are not pegged to race, but to Socio-economic conditions in upbringing, education and personality.

If we flip it around to "do you trust white people?", "Are white people smart?" Are you thinking of Bill Gates or George Bush?

The "Views of Illegal Immigration" and "Gays in the military" polls were acceptable to me though.

How can an election have consequences when you can only vote for the corporate oligarchy? The tea parties are against the republicans and democrats because they both work for the same people.

You are buying into the democratic spin of the subject, thereby completely missing the point. It would not have mattered if McCain won the election, the policies from the white house would have been the same as they are now. If you look back at their campaign founding you can see both Obama and McCain are tools of the giant corporations.

If McCain had won, we would not have the current health insurance bill.

And the corporations are just as much a tool of the government as vica versa.

ruveyn

Thank you for this. You are entirely correct. I hate how so many people, both on the left and right, blindly support their party the way one would support a sports team. There's no good guys and bad guys, both of the major parties do the same things and are bought out and run by the same people.

On the original topic of the thread: I'm sad about what the tea party has turned into. When it started, it actually was a relatively ok thing. It was just normal people protesting the government. But once fox got a hold of it everything changed. Now it's a bunch of ignorant a**holes who know nothing about politics. I dislike obama, but I also dislike the republican party. They dislike obama for all the wrong reasons, and don't see the big picture.

It scares me how much people miss. RFIDs are already being implemented more and more often, there are cameras going up all over the country, especially NYC. Don't even get me started on how fake that "bomb scare" was. Maybe if he'd gotten lucky he would have lit his car on fire, at most. The contents of that car was all stuff that a housewife in VT might pick up on the way home. Gas cans and fireworks is not a car bomb, especially not one made by someone who allegedly received explosives training in pakistan!
We're fast approaching the level of orwellian control seen in the UK, where police cameras outnumber citizens. And yet no one seems to care!

To avoid going on a long rant about this, I'll just stop myself here. aksldjalshfalsjdlkasjda

Come on now, I think we all know that the tea parties are just a branch of the Republican Party. They aren't protesting the policies. They don't have a damn clue what the policies are.