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NeantHumain
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29 May 2010, 11:33 am

ruveyn wrote:
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Well, a nation can establish a Christian church as its official religion and force its citizens to be members just as an Islamic theocracy can be established.


Not the United States, short of a repeal of the First Amendment to the Constitution. It is illegal for Congress to ordain or establish a religion or church. By extension and the 14 th Amendment it is also illegal for the States to do so. The First Amendment is much more important to our liberties than the Second Amendment.

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That hasn't stopped the Christian Right from trying. :(



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03 Jun 2010, 1:43 pm

I hate to be pedantic (Wait! What am I saying? I love being a pedant!!), but the Vatican City meets all the tests in international law for being a nation: it has a defined territory, it has effective control over that territory, and its control is generally recognized within the international community.

Given that the sole raison d'etre for the nation is to provide a territorial base for the Church and sovereign immunity for the Pope, I think it can be argued that the Vatican is a "Christian nation."

Now back to your more meaningful discussion about the role of Christianity in the daily life of the United States and Americans! :)


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03 Jun 2010, 6:01 pm

visagrunt wrote:
I hate to be pedantic (Wait! What am I saying? I love being a pedant!!), but the Vatican City meets all the tests in international law for being a nation: it has a defined territory, it has effective control over that territory, and its control is generally recognized within the international community.

Given that the sole raison d'etre for the nation is to provide a territorial base for the Church and sovereign immunity for the Pope, I think it can be argued that the Vatican is a "Christian nation."


You might be right, but it has an astoundingly low birth rate. In fact, I think people are its biggest import.


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