The Most Hated Christian

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Most hated Christian

Ray Comfort	4%	[ 2 ]
John Calvin	7%	[ 4 ]
Jonathan Edwards	0%	[ 0 ]
Paul of Tarsus	6%	[ 3 ]
Augustine of Hippo	2%	[ 1 ]
Mike Huckabee	2%	[ 1 ]
Phil Donohue	0%	[ 0 ]
James Dobson	4%	[ 2 ]
Pat Robertson	9%	[ 5 ]
Sye TenBruggencate	0%	[ 0 ]
Cornelius Van Til	0%	[ 0 ]
Jesus	13%	[ 7 ]
Other (please mention in thread)	24%	[ 13 ]
Give me the results	30%	[ 16 ]

Total votes : 54

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03 Jun 2010, 5:29 am

ruveyn wrote:

Jesus, the son of Joseph and Miriam was NOT a Christian. He was a Jew.

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Yes but was he the cause of the symptom ?

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03 Jun 2010, 5:46 am

DentArthurDent wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Jesus, the son of Joseph and Miriam was NOT a Christian. He was a Jew.

ruveyn

Yes but was he the cause of the symptom ?

The wretched Saul of Tarsus had more to do with that, than Jesus who was slightly crazy.

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03 Jun 2010, 10:35 am

greenblue wrote:

The most hated Christian should be Constantine I :evil:

For starting the Byzantine Empire which lasted from the 4th century to the 15th century? Or for allowing Christians the right to own property and not be tortured to death?

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03 Jun 2010, 11:07 am

ruveyn wrote:

DentArthurDent wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Jesus, the son of Joseph and Miriam was NOT a Christian. He was a Jew.

ruveyn

Yes but was he the cause of the symptom ?

The wretched Saul of Tarsus had more to do with that, than Jesus who was slightly crazy.

ruveyn

Really just go back to human nature. If it wasn't Christianity, then it would be some other "magic-man worship".

That being said, I'd rather vote for a person who makes the devil we know worse, so to speak. After all, if we know that people tend towards worshiping magic men, then at the very least we should hate people who make this magic-men worship even MORE opposed to reason, or who make it MORE wicked in it's workings.

This isn't to say that Jesus is great, but y'know, if you don't like the Messiah they picked, they had a few more options, and we have a few more like Jesus to this day. That being said, I picked John Calvin, y'know the guy who said that God sovereignly picked the people he wanted damned, and who set up a theocracy in Geneva. Certainly Christianity was already pretty bad, but this guy made it worse, and a number of atheists hate Calvinists for how much their theology mentally poisons them against reason.

That being said, I think that theists are twice as stupid as Dent believes they are!

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03 Jun 2010, 12:07 pm

They're all really quite horrible...Paul/Saul of Tarus, Augustine of Hippo, Ignatius Loyola, John Calvin...pretty much any pope or Superior General to the Jesuits in at least the modern age of the church.

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03 Jun 2010, 4:04 pm

kirk cameron and ray comfort. pat robertson comes in second followed by perry stone

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03 Jun 2010, 4:26 pm

saul/paul.
evil evil man.

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03 Jun 2010, 4:32 pm

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saul/paul.
evil evil man.

Certainly he may be hated, but how the heck would he be "evil"?

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03 Jun 2010, 4:33 pm

Hi IrishAspie.

Technically I'm an IrishAutie, but hello.

Why do you think Paul was an evil man? I used to think the same thing, I'd be interested to know if you have the same reasons. I've completely changed my mind by the way... just to warn you. I think he's been just as misunderstood as Jesus Christ. (Who, by the way, wasn't Christian. Someone has probably said it already, but He was Jewish.)

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03 Jun 2010, 4:38 pm

his teachings (which are now followed by most christians) are just plain wrong, he was a morally bankrupt man.

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03 Jun 2010, 4:43 pm

Which teachings? That a man should love his wife as much as he loved his own flesh and be prepared to die for her, even as Christ died for the church? That women should be honoured for their work in the church?

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05 Jun 2010, 12:58 am

In defense of Calvinism…

IF God is the all-knowing author of us all, he would necessarily know who’ll be damned and who won’t. I mean, as far as it goes, it seems compatible with reason to me. :roll:

I say save your contempt for the Christians AND atheists alike who cling to comforting nonsense like freewill!

Back on topic…

I think Davey is kind of a tool, but Ted Haggard might be fun at a party.
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05 Jun 2010, 1:23 am

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Ok, someone suggested having a thread for most hated Christians, so LETS HAVE A VOTE!!

Hopefully this leads us all to recognize the horridness of theistic beliefs and to all exult in Godlessness, and I say this because I am STRIDENT.

(This message has been paid for by the commission to awesomize Awesomelyglorious)

PS: if you want to vote for AngelRho, (he's gladly offered to bear your cruelty) please select "other" and mention his name.

I'll withhold my own anti-theist comments since i'd obviously be preaching to the converted.

I voted for Pat Robertson.....he needs to join Jerry Falwell already.

You should've included "purpose-driven" Rick Warren on the list too.

He's even worse than Robertson and Falwell...at least they're pretty honest
about their xtian fascism. Warren tries to make a big show of his "tolerance",
but he's just as much of an aspiring theocrat as the aforementioned glorified
rednecks.

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05 Jun 2010, 1:27 am

jc6chan wrote:

Also, John Hagee is not on there. He's a pretty crazy guy who campaigns for Israel to expand its territories.

Ugh...that malevolent talking mushroom.

I'm truly ashamed to be an American considering some of the idiots
millions of my fellow citizens take seriously.

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05 Jun 2010, 1:36 am

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I say save your contempt for the Christians AND atheists alike who cling to comforting nonsense like freewill!

The belief in free will is perhaps even more incompatible with reason than
theism itself is. As a militant anti-theist myself, my head hits desk when a
fellow atheist tells me they believe in free will.

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05 Jun 2010, 9:17 am

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Oh, the real issue is that this is supposed to be a perfectly good God who runs the world by his secret will that includes people committing genocides, and a perfectly good God who has the power to save whomever he wants, but just keeps this knowledge to lunatics.

So, I mean, Calvinism is pretty rationalistic, but where it goes wrong you get moments where you want to remove part of your brain to protect your sanity after hearing the excuse. Free will theism at least has more of that "free will theodicy", but Calvinism can't reasonably even begin to use it.

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