Medical Marijuana for the Disabled and Dieing

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Medical Marijuana for the disabled and dieing
I agree with the use of M.J when its usage helps a patient and is authorized by a trained professional medical doctor. 47%  47%  [ 15 ]
I agree with the use of M.J when its usage helps a patient and is authorized by a trained professional medical doctor. 47%  47%  [ 15 ]
I don’t’ agree with medical marijuana for the sick and dieing because I’m a cold hearted person who has no soul. Or I believe it’s of the devil and the voices object to its usage, I truly belief I have a right to take away the fundamental human rights of 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
I don’t’ agree with medical marijuana for the sick and dieing because I’m a cold hearted person who has no soul. Or I believe it’s of the devil and the voices object to its usage, I truly belief I have a right to take away the fundamental human rights of 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
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11 Apr 2006, 12:57 pm

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Right Peebo, but do you find it difficult to talk about mj on forums? I certainly do. I am not used to be labelled as some sort of degenerate or addict, unfortunately this is what tends to happen whenever I state my views about mj on forums. I am very uncomfortable with being perceived as some sort of druggie. There are so many people out there who have no clue about this issue and will personally attack anyone whose views do not match their own limited knowledge or capacity for debate. I feel compelled though to speak about the mj issue because I have seen how very beneficial the herb can be. I have also seen the great harm that comes from the ban.


I agree with you and find the same thing and I don't even smoke it. One thing you did overlook was at the time it was made illegal there was a breakthough in paper making which would have had hemp become a popular sorce of paper and lots pulp mills didn't want that neither did the newspapers becuse they owned the pulp mills.


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11 Apr 2006, 8:58 pm

I was pondering the idea of setting up a petition website for Medical M.J as an issue for Congress to take on. I know how to market it, just that like other websites I do online I perceive it more as a game of strategy then the real-world. Though I do believe in possibilities of success, I do not actualize it as certain.

Usually it's people with great amounts of money that get to speak to the public, or those that commit horrid crimes or simply happen to be of a happen chance occurrence.

It's worth a try..

Hey, look at the poll, a prankster actually voted no. Laugh



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11 Apr 2006, 10:02 pm

I think the best outcome served is if from the congress a well known republican and a well known democrat presented the policy for a compassionate use tolerance. At least in states whom have voted for the right of patients to do so already. It is important I think that when Americans vote that it matter.

It in some ways dis-credits the votes of people, as if voting does not matter.

This way I think there would be an honoring of the peoples votes. As well as respecting the choice of patients and prescribed treatment methodologies of qualified medical doctors.



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12 Apr 2006, 3:04 am

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Right Peebo, but do you find it difficult to talk about mj on forums? I certainly do. I am not used to be labelled as some sort of degenerate or addict, unfortunately this is what tends to happen whenever I state my views about mj on forums. I am very uncomfortable with being perceived as some sort of druggie. There are so many people out there who have no clue about this issue and will personally attack anyone whose views do not match their own limited knowledge or capacity for debate. I feel compelled though to speak about the mj issue because I have seen how very beneficial the herb can be. I have also seen the great harm that comes from the ban.


very true. put forward a pro cannabis viewpoint and immediately you risk being dismissed as a drug crazed hippy. reefer madness! the fact is that i don't even smoke cannabis these days. i used to, but after being diagnosed AS i started to wonder if it was not causing me more problems than it was helping, although it definately helped with some of my problems. many peoples opinions on subjects such as drugs etc. are so contradictory, influenced by propoganda and spin. so although i can't really claim to be neutral, having smoked weed for a number of years, i do feel like something of an impartial advocate for the stuff. don't get me wrong, i totally agree that it can cause problems for some users, but no moreso, and actually probably far less, than most "legal" or pharmaceutical drugs.
the cannabis scandal is a good example of the power that governments and propogandists really hold over populations.



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12 Apr 2006, 3:13 am

Some people become happy when speaking about such things and have sayings for M.J. It is a culture of tripped up heads.

It's a medicine and not for the illegal dope head culture.



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12 Apr 2006, 5:01 am

you say its a medicine, although its actually a herb, that once grew wild in many areas of the world (and still does in some), and has been used by man since the dawn of history. we have a natural symbiosis with the herb, and its healing qualities are not limited to ingestion either, its essential oils have many applications for topical use. many herbs and plant foods have medicinal and psychoactive qualities, would you regard all of these as medicines?



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12 Apr 2006, 1:26 pm

Certain kinds of medicine need to be regulated and others not. Aspirin is over the counter and more mind altering ones for pain have to have a doctors prescription.

You remember the story of Johnny apple seed from school? Imagine some toked out defuses planting them everywhere, Merry Jane Seeders. If it's legalized for everyone it might end up everywhere. Kids would only have to seek it in the common weed patch and have drugs.

What you do in your own home and land is your business. It's a medicine not a culinary herb.



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12 Apr 2006, 2:31 pm

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...not a culinary herb.


wrong again.



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12 Apr 2006, 2:33 pm

Marijuana is an indigenous plant with a long history of use by humans. It grows wild in many parts of the world, including the US. There is evidence that humankind have had such a long symbiotic relationship with cannabis that our dna has evolved to make use of the plant. We have cannibinoid receptors in our brains.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoids



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12 Apr 2006, 2:35 pm

And no wondering the irrationalities of some of the past! From the imaginative to the delusion, but that’s only natural as well.

No it's not a culinary herb, right and not wrong.

It's used in foods like alcohol is used to spike punch.



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12 Apr 2006, 2:43 pm

M.J is indeed a drug, whether or not it grows on a plant is not the issue. When used properly with permission from qualified medical professionals it is legal. What some want to do here is because of an addiction of there own, use medical M.J politics for compassions to entirely legalize it, this just makes anti-drug types disagree with it more. More so the response of an addiction or wanting it themselves then what is reasonable to assist those that are recognized as being in need of it.

I really think these total legalization types are really not out for what is best overall, just themselves and a few buddies in addictive patterns. Reminds me of bars...Then all those car crashes killing innocent people while M.J threatens new generations of minds.



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12 Apr 2006, 3:22 pm

Concerning Laz,

Laz uses an offensive picture of a Nazi in his Avatar, posts discriminate lyrics and comes into my post calling me names.

First things first, I don't tolerate others calling me names, its a discussion, if he had more respect he would have had a productive conversation with me. Not instigate like an instigator and angry man does.

I am willing to subside my reactive pattern to him, but he has to be willing to understand that to speak with me, he cannot instigate me.

I don't go around here calling others names initially, unless they are trying to be entirely non-productive in conversation and start dilemmas. What's the purpose of the nonsense, instead of conversing or creating P.V's it initial degrades.

My point of view is that people who use drugs are druggies unless they use it for a medical purpose and from a medical doctor.

There are pill addicts as well. Laz has the opportunity to subside such ridiculous non-productive arguments and to promote cogent debates and argumentation.


When viewing fact and opinion, I think there needs to be a balance in these issues between total freedom and responsible law based upon the real reality. In so in saying, M.J is a medicine for patients, not dope heads.

If you are offended by me saying dope head, then you’re a user or likely know one, if you have a medical need then that label need not apply.

Would Laz like to begin again, without trying to cuase problems and talk?



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12 Apr 2006, 4:06 pm

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It grows wild in many parts of the world, including the US.


I've actullay seen growing wild in Ct not being cultivated or anything just growing in an empty lot I was actually supprised but have been told it used to be rather commen.

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No it's not a culinary herb, right and not wrong.

It's used in foods like alcohol is used to spike punch.


I know some people from the Carribian who use it like a spice for favor the amount they use would no be enough to spike the food though


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12 Apr 2006, 4:49 pm

That sort of application is not common, likely more an excuse to feel the effect even if subtle. It does not take much at all.

Also the substance increases appetite.



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12 Apr 2006, 4:59 pm

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M.J is indeed a drug, whether or not it grows on a plant is not the issue. When used properly with permission from qualified medical professionals it is legal. What some want to do here is because of an addiction of there own, use medical M.J politics for compassions to entirely legalize it, this just makes anti-drug types disagree with it more. More so the response of an addiction or wanting it themselves then what is reasonable to assist those that are recognized as being in need of it.

I really think these total legalization types are really not out for what is best overall, just themselves and a few buddies in addictive patterns. Reminds me of bars...Then all those car crashes killing innocent people while M.J threatens new generations of minds.


cannabis is non addictive. as i have stated several times here, i used to smoke, for a number of years, whom of my own accord decided to forgo it. with absolutely no symptoms of withdrawal from addiction. how then, do you explain my position? as a non smoker, who still advocates freedom of choice for all?



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12 Apr 2006, 5:30 pm

It is addictive, saying otherwise is wrong.

Choice is circumstancial when debating freedom. Someone can choose to run into a vheical, shoot others or any other number of crimes, it does not make it legal.

The drug addiction still exists in you even if you do not smoke, the excuse is ultimate freedom when it inslaves society in poverty for those who do abuse it and do little else, why do people need drugs. IS society percieved by them so impossible to cope with that M.J is the escape.

Right, not wrong. Common sense please, just say no to total legalization.