11 Jun 2010, 11:26 am
sartresue
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11 Jun 2010, 11:49 am
Sand wrote:
sartresue wrote:
Lost shaker of salt topic
Sometimes we need a small amount of salt to make the truth taste better. But going over the limit can lead to hypertension.
I can understand to some extent that when people are confronted with their own death, they wonder if perhaps they just might live on after the demise of their bodies.
Now I am going to be strident: Atheists know that when they die, they will have no recollection of this life because there will not be a free floating memory to let them know that they have departed their earthly shackles. This means we will have no awareness of our own death, and its existential moment. It will be left to others to remember us through memorials, funerals, legacies, wakes, and what have you. This saddens me somewhat to realize that I will have no inkling that I have ever lived, but I do hope that someone will remember me in a positive light, at least.
And each of us gets one chance at life, so make the best of it, and then you will hopefully not be villifed after you are ashes and dust.
Sometimes we need a small amount of salt to make the truth taste better. But going over the limit can lead to hypertension.
I can understand to some extent that when people are confronted with their own death, they wonder if perhaps they just might live on after the demise of their bodies.
Now I am going to be strident: Atheists know that when they die, they will have no recollection of this life because there will not be a free floating memory to let them know that they have departed their earthly shackles. This means we will have no awareness of our own death, and its existential moment. It will be left to others to remember us through memorials, funerals, legacies, wakes, and what have you. This saddens me somewhat to realize that I will have no inkling that I have ever lived, but I do hope that someone will remember me in a positive light, at least.
And each of us gets one chance at life, so make the best of it, and then you will hopefully not be villifed after you are ashes and dust.These, of course, are the aspirations of someone who's whole mental stance rests upon what other people think. For one thing, a huge number of people don't think very well nor very much. Although it is good policy to take their reactions into consideration while one is alive, after one is dead they have very little or any consequence. Being alive is very much a matter of lonely experience and I do live to enhance my own and as many other lives, human and otherwise because, while alive I care about what occurs around me. After I'm dead there is no me to give a damn what people think of me.
Iodine on the wound topic
Some of us do care what others think, and some think about this more than others. Mine is restricted to close family.
My words are for people who do care when the loved one passes, atheist or not.
Your choice in such matters is for those who do not concern themselves about it.
Next.
11 Jun 2010, 12:10 pm
sartresue wrote:
Sand wrote:
sartresue wrote:
Lost shaker of salt topic
Sometimes we need a small amount of salt to make the truth taste better. But going over the limit can lead to hypertension.
I can understand to some extent that when people are confronted with their own death, they wonder if perhaps they just might live on after the demise of their bodies.
Now I am going to be strident: Atheists know that when they die, they will have no recollection of this life because there will not be a free floating memory to let them know that they have departed their earthly shackles. This means we will have no awareness of our own death, and its existential moment. It will be left to others to remember us through memorials, funerals, legacies, wakes, and what have you. This saddens me somewhat to realize that I will have no inkling that I have ever lived, but I do hope that someone will remember me in a positive light, at least. And each of us gets one chance at life, so make the best of it, and then you will hopefully not be villifed after you are ashes and dust.
Sometimes we need a small amount of salt to make the truth taste better. But going over the limit can lead to hypertension.
I can understand to some extent that when people are confronted with their own death, they wonder if perhaps they just might live on after the demise of their bodies.
Now I am going to be strident: Atheists know that when they die, they will have no recollection of this life because there will not be a free floating memory to let them know that they have departed their earthly shackles. This means we will have no awareness of our own death, and its existential moment. It will be left to others to remember us through memorials, funerals, legacies, wakes, and what have you. This saddens me somewhat to realize that I will have no inkling that I have ever lived, but I do hope that someone will remember me in a positive light, at least.
And each of us gets one chance at life, so make the best of it, and then you will hopefully not be villifed after you are ashes and dust.These, of course, are the aspirations of someone who's whole mental stance rests upon what other people think. For one thing, a huge number of people don't think very well nor very much. Although it is good policy to take their reactions into consideration while one is alive, after one is dead they have very little or any consequence. Being alive is very much a matter of lonely experience and I do live to enhance my own and as many other lives, human and otherwise because, while alive I care about what occurs around me. After I'm dead there is no me to give a damn what people think of me.
Iodine on the wound topic
Some of us do care what others think, and some think about this more than others. Mine is restricted to close family.
My words are for people who do care when the loved one passes, atheist or not.
Your choice in such matters is for those who do not concern themselves about it.
Next.
When I have died I am reasonably sure that after a relatively a short time people will think of me little if at all. After, at most, a year or two, I will have vanished from Earth as if I had never lived. And this is as it should be since people have daily consideration of even most rather trivial things which weigh much more heavily than my existence. And this is true of almost everybody. It bothers me not at all.
13 Jun 2010, 3:21 pm
Sand wrote:
sartresue wrote:
Sand wrote:
sartresue wrote:
Lost shaker of salt topic
Sometimes we need a small amount of salt to make the truth taste better. But going over the limit can lead to hypertension.
I can understand to some extent that when people are confronted with their own death, they wonder if perhaps they just might live on after the demise of their bodies.
Now I am going to be strident: Atheists know that when they die, they will have no recollection of this life because there will not be a free floating memory to let them know that they have departed their earthly shackles. This means we will have no awareness of our own death, and its existential moment. It will be left to others to remember us through memorials, funerals, legacies, wakes, and what have you. This saddens me somewhat to realize that I will have no inkling that I have ever lived, but I do hope that someone will remember me in a positive light, at least. And each of us gets one chance at life, so make the best of it, and then you will hopefully not be villifed after you are ashes and dust.
Sometimes we need a small amount of salt to make the truth taste better. But going over the limit can lead to hypertension.
I can understand to some extent that when people are confronted with their own death, they wonder if perhaps they just might live on after the demise of their bodies.
Now I am going to be strident: Atheists know that when they die, they will have no recollection of this life because there will not be a free floating memory to let them know that they have departed their earthly shackles. This means we will have no awareness of our own death, and its existential moment. It will be left to others to remember us through memorials, funerals, legacies, wakes, and what have you. This saddens me somewhat to realize that I will have no inkling that I have ever lived, but I do hope that someone will remember me in a positive light, at least.
And each of us gets one chance at life, so make the best of it, and then you will hopefully not be villifed after you are ashes and dust.These, of course, are the aspirations of someone who's whole mental stance rests upon what other people think. For one thing, a huge number of people don't think very well nor very much. Although it is good policy to take their reactions into consideration while one is alive, after one is dead they have very little or any consequence. Being alive is very much a matter of lonely experience and I do live to enhance my own and as many other lives, human and otherwise because, while alive I care about what occurs around me. After I'm dead there is no me to give a damn what people think of me.
Iodine on the wound topic
Some of us do care what others think, and some think about this more than others. Mine is restricted to close family.
My words are for people who do care when the loved one passes, atheist or not.
Your choice in such matters is for those who do not concern themselves about it.
Next.
When I have died I am reasonably sure that after a relatively a short time people will think of me little if at all. After, at most, a year or two, I will have vanished from Earth as if I had never lived. And this is as it should be since people have daily consideration of even most rather trivial things which weigh much more heavily than my existence. And this is true of almost everybody. It bothers me not at all.
i feel obligated to interject.
you both recognize the insignificance of your own existence. you approach this insignificance in different ways.
on a long enough timescale, no monument lasts.
in a life without inherent meaning, there is no natural law forbidding the application of desired meaning.
the monuments, memorials, dedications, and inspirations are more than simply proofs that you existed.
sartresue
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13 Jun 2010, 4:43 pm
waltur wrote:
Sand wrote:
sartresue wrote:
Sand wrote:
sartresue wrote:
Lost shaker of salt topic
Sometimes we need a small amount of salt to make the truth taste better. But going over the limit can lead to hypertension.
I can understand to some extent that when people are confronted with their own death, they wonder if perhaps they just might live on after the demise of their bodies.
Now I am going to be strident: Atheists know that when they die, they will have no recollection of this life because there will not be a free floating memory to let them know that they have departed their earthly shackles. This means we will have no awareness of our own death, and its existential moment. It will be left to others to remember us through memorials, funerals, legacies, wakes, and what have you. This saddens me somewhat to realize that I will have no inkling that I have ever lived, but I do hope that someone will remember me in a positive light, at least. And each of us gets one chance at life, so make the best of it, and then you will hopefully not be villifed after you are ashes and dust.
Sometimes we need a small amount of salt to make the truth taste better. But going over the limit can lead to hypertension.
I can understand to some extent that when people are confronted with their own death, they wonder if perhaps they just might live on after the demise of their bodies.
Now I am going to be strident: Atheists know that when they die, they will have no recollection of this life because there will not be a free floating memory to let them know that they have departed their earthly shackles. This means we will have no awareness of our own death, and its existential moment. It will be left to others to remember us through memorials, funerals, legacies, wakes, and what have you. This saddens me somewhat to realize that I will have no inkling that I have ever lived, but I do hope that someone will remember me in a positive light, at least.
And each of us gets one chance at life, so make the best of it, and then you will hopefully not be villifed after you are ashes and dust.These, of course, are the aspirations of someone who's whole mental stance rests upon what other people think. For one thing, a huge number of people don't think very well nor very much. Although it is good policy to take their reactions into consideration while one is alive, after one is dead they have very little or any consequence. Being alive is very much a matter of lonely experience and I do live to enhance my own and as many other lives, human and otherwise because, while alive I care about what occurs around me. After I'm dead there is no me to give a damn what people think of me.
Iodine on the wound topic
Some of us do care what others think, and some think about this more than others. Mine is restricted to close family.
My words are for people who do care when the loved one passes, atheist or not.
Your choice in such matters is for those who do not concern themselves about it.
Next.
When I have died I am reasonably sure that after a relatively a short time people will think of me little if at all. After, at most, a year or two, I will have vanished from Earth as if I had never lived. And this is as it should be since people have daily consideration of even most rather trivial things which weigh much more heavily than my existence. And this is true of almost everybody. It bothers me not at all.
i feel obligated to interject.
you both recognize the insignificance of your own existence. you approach this insignificance in different ways.
on a long enough timescale, no monument lasts.
in a life without inherent meaning, there is no natural law forbidding the application of desired meaning.
the monuments, memorials, dedications, and inspirations are more than simply proofs that you existed.
From womb to tomb topic
I may yet come to the same opinion as Sand. But for now, I am still collecting earthly reminders (and life review) of my time on this earth for my kids to remember me.
14 Jun 2010, 3:30 pm
sartresue wrote:
From womb to tomb topic
I may yet come to the same opinion as Sand. But for now, I am still collecting earthly reminders (and life review) of my time on this earth for my kids to remember me.
I may yet come to the same opinion as Sand. But for now, I am still collecting earthly reminders (and life review) of my time on this earth for my kids to remember me.
From tomb to boon topic
while i do expect that earth-life will eventually attain some significant semblance of immortality, it is all but certain that each of us living today will die. some of our best remembered civilizations are best remembered for their burial monuments. our legacies are much more useful, nowadays. f**k an epically huge tomb. wouldn't you rather have a spaceport named after you?
"From womb to tomb" i'd have to say my life so far has been incredibly awesome compared to most of those who died before i was born. this is in no small part due to their contributions to a future they would never know.
also: god endorsed AG, but did he give him any magical powers? 'cause magical powers rock.
