22 Sep 2010, 10:26 am
22 Sep 2010, 10:28 am
skafather84 wrote:
One thing I've noticed with Europe is that despite saying that they're more better good or whatever, because they lack the normal day to day interactions with the breadth of people that one might come across here or in Los Angeles or New York City, they're pretty ignorant as far as racial issues go and how to treat people who 'don't look like them' like themselves. Some hold pretty racist ideas, too. That racism, like most racism, comes from a lacking of direct interaction and a general mental laziness on the issue. So take that and then add in a Muslim immigration (rightly immigrating trying to escape the poverty and warfare of their homelands) and the Muslims' own racism and ignorance and conspiracy theories and you've got a fairly volatile mix. A similar poverty/war immigration is happening here in the states with Mexico and Central America. However, much of our immigration problem would be fairly easily solved by legalizing drugs and domesticating our sources for those products.
I REALLY hope you're not being serious. If you are, you're the ignorant one. How about you come to London and see how much diversity there is and how many special rules are passed to help Muslims integrate, then tell me how racist we are?
22 Sep 2010, 10:57 am
Asp-Z wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
One thing I've noticed with Europe is that despite saying that they're more better good or whatever, because they lack the normal day to day interactions with the breadth of people that one might come across here or in Los Angeles or New York City, they're pretty ignorant as far as racial issues go and how to treat people who 'don't look like them' like themselves. Some hold pretty racist ideas, too. That racism, like most racism, comes from a lacking of direct interaction and a general mental laziness on the issue. So take that and then add in a Muslim immigration (rightly immigrating trying to escape the poverty and warfare of their homelands) and the Muslims' own racism and ignorance and conspiracy theories and you've got a fairly volatile mix. A similar poverty/war immigration is happening here in the states with Mexico and Central America. However, much of our immigration problem would be fairly easily solved by legalizing drugs and domesticating our sources for those products.
I REALLY hope you're not being serious. If you are, you're the ignorant one. How about you come to London and see how much diversity there is and how many special rules are passed to help Muslims integrate, then tell me how racist we are?
Mainland Europe. The place banning burkas and minarets.
England: You're not REALLY Europe. You're Europe lite.
22 Sep 2010, 10:59 am
skafather84 wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
One thing I've noticed with Europe is that despite saying that they're more better good or whatever, because they lack the normal day to day interactions with the breadth of people that one might come across here or in Los Angeles or New York City, they're pretty ignorant as far as racial issues go and how to treat people who 'don't look like them' like themselves. Some hold pretty racist ideas, too. That racism, like most racism, comes from a lacking of direct interaction and a general mental laziness on the issue. So take that and then add in a Muslim immigration (rightly immigrating trying to escape the poverty and warfare of their homelands) and the Muslims' own racism and ignorance and conspiracy theories and you've got a fairly volatile mix. A similar poverty/war immigration is happening here in the states with Mexico and Central America. However, much of our immigration problem would be fairly easily solved by legalizing drugs and domesticating our sources for those products.
I REALLY hope you're not being serious. If you are, you're the ignorant one. How about you come to London and see how much diversity there is and how many special rules are passed to help Muslims integrate, then tell me how racist we are?
Mainland Europe. The place banning burkas and minarets.
England: You're not REALLY Europe. You're Europe lite.
Ahh, zee French! How many times have you been to France, by the way?
Of course England is Europe. We have EU directives integrated into our laws and are in the EU. The only real difference between us and other European countries is the fact we don't use the Euro.
22 Sep 2010, 11:07 am
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22 Sep 2010, 11:20 am
22 Sep 2010, 11:21 am
skafather84 wrote:
One thing I've noticed with Europe is that despite saying that they're more better good or whatever, because they lack the normal day to day interactions with the breadth of people that one might come across here or in Los Angeles or New York City, they're pretty ignorant as far as racial issues go and how to treat people who 'don't look like them' like themselves. Some hold pretty racist ideas, too. That racism, like most racism, comes from a lacking of direct interaction and a general mental laziness on the issue.
Judging from some of the threads on here I think that you could say the same thing about America.
I am guessing that not the whole USA has the diversity that NY & LA have. The crowds at your college football games often seem exclusively white. Though there are plenty of black faces on the field.
The impression I get is that different races don't hang out together as much in USA compared to the UK. Correct me if you feel that is wrong.
I admit that I have only been to the USA once but I did not feel as comfortable outside big city areas as I would in the UK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_London#Ethnicity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_York_City#Racial_and_Ethnic_composition
22 Sep 2010, 12:31 pm
BigK wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
One thing I've noticed with Europe is that despite saying that they're more better good or whatever, because they lack the normal day to day interactions with the breadth of people that one might come across here or in Los Angeles or New York City, they're pretty ignorant as far as racial issues go and how to treat people who 'don't look like them' like themselves. Some hold pretty racist ideas, too. That racism, like most racism, comes from a lacking of direct interaction and a general mental laziness on the issue.
Judging from some of the threads on here I think that you could say the same thing about America.
I am guessing that not the whole USA has the diversity that NY & LA have. The crowds at your college football games often seem exclusively white. Though there are plenty of black faces on the field.
The impression I get is that different races don't hang out together as much in USA compared to the UK. Correct me if you feel that is wrong.
I admit that I have only been to the USA once but I did not feel as comfortable outside big city areas as I would in the UK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_London#Ethnicity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_York_City#Racial_and_Ethnic_composition
Yeah, I was pretty specific with my choices because I've lived in the bible belt region before and couldn't stand it.
With people hanging out together...depends on where. Here, it's pretty common. It's pretty common in LA and Orlando, too. In the area I lived in North of Dallas, it was much less common.
Edit: A caveat on LA: the Asian populations were a lot more isolated and mostly hung out with themselves than others.
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22 Sep 2010, 12:42 pm
22 Sep 2010, 1:41 pm
Asp-Z wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Yeah, I've just talked to a number of people from there and other parts of Europe (mostly from France, Belgium, and Netherlands).
And you're telling me that they're all racists, yeah?
That's exactly what I'm saying. That you and every single person that you have ever known is nothing but a racist because you're all European.
22 Sep 2010, 2:01 pm
skafather84 wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Yeah, I've just talked to a number of people from there and other parts of Europe (mostly from France, Belgium, and Netherlands).
And you're telling me that they're all racists, yeah?
That's exactly what I'm saying. That you and every single person that you have ever known is nothing but a racist because you're all European.
Sounds like it, too, since you orginally said, "they're [Europeans] pretty ignorant as far as racial issues go and how to treat people who 'don't look like them' like themselves. Some hold pretty racist ideas, too."
This is simply untrue.
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