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12 Oct 2010, 8:18 pm
Jono wrote:
Eric_crooks wrote:
Hello all, I used to be a non-denomintional christian until last year. In church, many so-called "Christians" would make fun of me and bully, and especially make fun of my aspergers-induced quirks and idiosyncracies. I found this to be the case at EVERY church I went to. I blelieve this is because Christianity does not tolerate any kind of deviance from the norm. I mean when you look at the bible and read all of its silly morals and laws, its basically anti-aspergers, anti-nonconformist, pro-neurotypical, pro-conformist propaganda. It didn't matter if I was in a catholic church, a othodox synagogue or whatever... every Xtian place of worship was full of serious people who did not appreciate it my dark sense of humur and penchant for satire...
But then I started reading about Islam and it seemed like a much more accepting relgioun. I started going to Masjid ("mosque", to you heathens) and it was so much more welcoming than any chrurch i have ever been too... I felt like all us Muslims there were one big family, and actually, in Allahs eyes, we are. Nobody made a big deal about me being an aspie, or being a satirist... i went to at least 3 mosques in my area, and my experienc was the same at each one. I also found other muslim aspies who have reported the same opinions, they're all happier as Muslims! i think have found the best religion not just for myself but for all Apsergians and all mankind. What do you think? Do you all think that Islam is the best faith for Aspies? Do you think that maybe it was just the Christians in my area that were stuck up and stupid, or is xtianity in general just a dum and close-minded religion?
But then I started reading about Islam and it seemed like a much more accepting relgioun. I started going to Masjid ("mosque", to you heathens) and it was so much more welcoming than any chrurch i have ever been too... I felt like all us Muslims there were one big family, and actually, in Allahs eyes, we are. Nobody made a big deal about me being an aspie, or being a satirist... i went to at least 3 mosques in my area, and my experienc was the same at each one. I also found other muslim aspies who have reported the same opinions, they're all happier as Muslims! i think have found the best religion not just for myself but for all Apsergians and all mankind. What do you think? Do you all think that Islam is the best faith for Aspies? Do you think that maybe it was just the Christians in my area that were stuck up and stupid, or is xtianity in general just a dum and close-minded religion?
If you want to convert to Islam then good for you. However, I don't think even fundamentalist Christians have anything against Aspies, it's just the specific people you've associated with. Generally, fundamentalist Christian are a lot more against homosexuals than people with any kind of disorder or neurological disability for that matter.
Autslam? topic
I highly doubt it. Religious groups have their own (sometimes hidden) reasons for welcoming new members.
In western style democracies people are free to worship or not. This is not the case in certain countries which do not practice the sort of democracy we are used to.
I am highly suspicious of superfriendly groupiness, though understandably for someone starved for inclusiveness a person can get a sort of high from such an experience.
And where is our OP? Busy in the Masjid, no doubt. Good luck. I prefer atheism.
12 Oct 2010, 11:32 pm
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13 Oct 2010, 2:41 pm
LiberalJustice wrote:
...not REAL Christians...
of which, by so many uses of the No True Scotsman diversion, none exist, apparently.
as to islam, you really must hand it to allah.
he's got huge balls.
and, much like that famous painting of jesus on the cross where his abs look more like a giant boner,
once i've seen it, i just can't help but giggle every time it appears!
what's an aspie to do?!
13 Oct 2010, 3:00 pm
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14 Oct 2010, 3:16 am
waltur wrote:
LiberalJustice wrote:
...not REAL Christians...
of which, by so many uses of the No True Scotsman diversion, none exist, apparently.
I've been over this with you before. Christianity is a set of beliefs. If one doesn't actually live by those beliefs, one it not a Christian. I'll throw the carnivourous vegan anology at you again.
14 Oct 2010, 2:03 pm
Tensu wrote:
waltur wrote:
LiberalJustice wrote:
...not REAL Christians...
of which, by so many uses of the No True Scotsman diversion, none exist, apparently.
I've been over this with you before. Christianity is a set of beliefs. If one doesn't actually live by those beliefs, one it not a Christian. I'll throw the carnivourous vegan anology at you again.
i know you don't like to click on links like http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/no-true-scotsman/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman, so i'll advise you to look up the "no true scotsman" fallacy yourself. your carnivorous vegan analogy is a terrible analogy. a christian that worships satan would be analogous to a carnivorous vegan. a christian that sins is still a christian. "all men have sinned..."
christianity encompasses quite a few different sets of beliefs and many of them don't mesh. are catholics, 7th day adventists, mormons, lutherans, and pentecostals not all christians?
if you can just say that only people who follow exactly what the bible says (which bible? includling/excluding which books?) can be counted as "christians," then the total, world-wide count is 0.
