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Inuyasha
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17 Nov 2010, 2:06 pm

You are still using things that aren't equivalent.

Wright had been making those remarks throughout the time that Obama was a member of Wright's church.

Beck didn't join his church until 1999 and you haven't mentioned anything concerning the particular church he attends.



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17 Nov 2010, 2:19 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
You are still using things that aren't equivalent.

Wright had been making those remarks throughout the time that Obama was a member of Wright's church.

Beck didn't join his church until 1999 and you haven't mentioned anything concerning the particular church he attends.


What proof do you have that Wright went on racist rants for the past ten years? And I don't mean "because the right says so."

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17 Nov 2010, 2:24 pm

What do you mean by this? All of those videos of him are from the last 10 years.



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17 Nov 2010, 2:41 pm

http://www.commongroundpolitics.net/dis ... php?t=8155

See video, granted I don't like cut and edited videos but you can make your own judgements.

Also found.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc2FCJ7zWEQ

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 221962023#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY28l6HoKww

Obama's comments on Wright.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pv9D5xs-mc

Granted there are some mocking of people in some of the videos and some editting so make your own judgements.



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17 Nov 2010, 3:26 pm

Mormons are fun.

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17 Nov 2010, 3:59 pm

I don't see Mormonism as any more ridiculous than any other form of Christianity. If you already believe Jesus was of a virgin birth, turn water into wine, and rose from the grave, then that other stuff doesn't seem so crazy.



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17 Nov 2010, 4:11 pm

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I don't see Mormonism as any more ridiculous than any other form of Christianity. If you already believe Jesus was of a virgin birth, turn water into wine, and rose from the grave, then that other stuff doesn't seem so crazy.


I'm just wondering how much lower is the left going to get.



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17 Nov 2010, 4:15 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I don't see Mormonism as any more ridiculous than any other form of Christianity. If you already believe Jesus was of a virgin birth, turn water into wine, and rose from the grave, then that other stuff doesn't seem so crazy.


I'm just wondering how much lower is the left going to get.


Nowhere near as low as the right has gotten with everything from denying help for the 9/11 workers to sabotaging healthcare then acting like as if they're faultless in the matter to both making up exaggerated stories of "death panels" to save money then on the other side claiming that it'll bankrupt the country with being too expensive.


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17 Nov 2010, 4:19 pm

Speaking of death panels, Paul Krugman recently suggested that we need them in order to balance the budget. 8O



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17 Nov 2010, 5:38 pm

Jacoby wrote:
I don't see Mormonism as any more ridiculous than any other form of Christianity. If you already believe Jesus was of a virgin birth, turn water into wine, and rose from the grave, then that other stuff doesn't seem so crazy.


if i'm not mistaken, mormons believe that god physically had sex with mary.

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edit: isn't satan jesus' brother according to mormonism?


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17 Nov 2010, 5:40 pm

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Speaking of death panels, Paul Krugman recently suggested that we need them in order to balance the budget. 8O




That's a blatant misrepresentation.


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17 Nov 2010, 5:54 pm

skafather84 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Speaking of death panels, Paul Krugman recently suggested that we need them in order to balance the budget. 8O




That's a blatant misrepresentation.


No, it is not a misrespresentation. I've seen the video and the transcripts.



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17 Nov 2010, 7:15 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Speaking of death panels, Paul Krugman recently suggested that we need them in order to balance the budget. 8O




That's a blatant misrepresentation.


No, it is not a misrespresentation. I've seen the video and the transcripts.


I concur. I heard and saw it.

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17 Nov 2010, 8:59 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Speaking of death panels, Paul Krugman recently suggested that we need them in order to balance the budget. 8O




That's a blatant misrepresentation.


No, it is not a misrespresentation. I've seen the video and the transcripts.


I concur. I heard and saw it.

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Just because Krugman said it doesn't mean that Obama's actually going to administer it. Last time I checked, Paul Krugman is only expressing his opinion. And lest anyone try to argue there is equivalency between Krugman and Beck for only expressing their opinions, I should remind you that millions of mouth breathers and cretins around the country hang on Beck's every word. I think that the people who even know who Paul Krugman is is numbered in only the tens of thousands. And even that may be an exaggeration for Krugman's readers. And I seriously doubt Krugman's fans actually are the type to carry guns and perpetrate violence.

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17 Nov 2010, 10:11 pm

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Just because Krugman said it doesn't mean that Obama's actually going to administer it.

No one claimed this.

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Last time I checked, Paul Krugman is only expressing his opinion.


No one said otherwise.

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And lest anyone try to argue there is equivalency between Krugman and Beck for only expressing their opinions, I should remind you that millions of mouth breathers and cretins around the country hang on Beck's every word.


Claiming that your guy escapes criticism of his opinions because less people listen to him(or because you assert his audience is less dangerous without proof) is foolish at best, idiotic at worst.

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I think that the people who even know who Paul Krugman is is numbered in only the tens of thousands. And even that may be an exaggeration for Krugman's readers. And I seriously doubt Krugman's fans actually are the type to carry guns and perpetrate violence.

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