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28 Mar 2011, 6:03 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
"If journalists are, in fact, biased toward liberalism, it's probably for the same reason teachers are-
they're educated."


Cute, I would argue it is brainwashing especially with the way educational standards have gone downhill.


go to factcheck.org (recomended by dick cheney)
or www.politifact.com
look at peoples ratings see which way the bias goes.

-spoiler both sides lie.


Heh factcheck.org, isn't that associated with Anhenberg (sp?) Project and thus tied to Barack Obama and Bill Ayers.

Only if you beleive in the delusional notion of guilt by 10th degree of association. Do you realize that Walter Annenburg was a Republican and close friend of President Ronald Reagon? Seriously. :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg


Your argument is faulty, Walter Annenberg was not a domestic terrorist.

And neither does the the Annenberg Public Policy Center or factcheck.org have anything to do with Bill Ayers.



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28 Mar 2011, 7:41 pm

marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
"If journalists are, in fact, biased toward liberalism, it's probably for the same reason teachers are-
they're educated."


Cute, I would argue it is brainwashing especially with the way educational standards have gone downhill.


go to factcheck.org (recomended by dick cheney)
or www.politifact.com
look at peoples ratings see which way the bias goes.

-spoiler both sides lie.


Heh factcheck.org, isn't that associated with Anhenberg (sp?) Project and thus tied to Barack Obama and Bill Ayers.

Only if you beleive in the delusional notion of guilt by 10th degree of association. Do you realize that Walter Annenburg was a Republican and close friend of President Ronald Reagon? Seriously. :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg


Your argument is faulty, Walter Annenberg was not a domestic terrorist.

And neither does the the Annenberg Public Policy Center or factcheck.org have anything to do with Bill Ayers.


Uh yes it does, because Ayers was involved with Factcheck.org.



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28 Mar 2011, 7:51 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
"If journalists are, in fact, biased toward liberalism, it's probably for the same reason teachers are-
they're educated."


Cute, I would argue it is brainwashing especially with the way educational standards have gone downhill.


go to factcheck.org (recomended by dick cheney)
or www.politifact.com
look at peoples ratings see which way the bias goes.

-spoiler both sides lie.


Heh factcheck.org, isn't that associated with Anhenberg (sp?) Project and thus tied to Barack Obama and Bill Ayers.

Only if you beleive in the delusional notion of guilt by 10th degree of association. Do you realize that Walter Annenburg was a Republican and close friend of President Ronald Reagon? Seriously. :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg


Your argument is faulty, Walter Annenberg was not a domestic terrorist.

And neither does the the Annenberg Public Policy Center or factcheck.org have anything to do with Bill Ayers.


Uh yes it does, because Ayers was involved with Factcheck.org.

some time as a strategy you should uh, keep your completly batsh!t crazy ass-ertions to yourself just so you can slip conservative ideas that make sense into the conversation.


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28 Mar 2011, 7:51 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
"If journalists are, in fact, biased toward liberalism, it's probably for the same reason teachers are-
they're educated."


Cute, I would argue it is brainwashing especially with the way educational standards have gone downhill.


go to factcheck.org (recomended by dick cheney)
or www.politifact.com
look at peoples ratings see which way the bias goes.

-spoiler both sides lie.


Heh factcheck.org, isn't that associated with Anhenberg (sp?) Project and thus tied to Barack Obama and Bill Ayers.

Only if you beleive in the delusional notion of guilt by 10th degree of association. Do you realize that Walter Annenburg was a Republican and close friend of President Ronald Reagon? Seriously. :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg


Your argument is faulty, Walter Annenberg was not a domestic terrorist.

And neither does the the Annenberg Public Policy Center or factcheck.org have anything to do with Bill Ayers.


Uh yes it does, because Ayers was involved with Factcheck.org.

some time as a strategy you should uh, keep your completly batsh!t crazy ass-ertions to yourself just so you can slip conservative ideas that make sense into the conversation.


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28 Mar 2011, 7:52 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
"If journalists are, in fact, biased toward liberalism, it's probably for the same reason teachers are-
they're educated."


Cute, I would argue it is brainwashing especially with the way educational standards have gone downhill.


go to factcheck.org (recomended by dick cheney)
or www.politifact.com
look at peoples ratings see which way the bias goes.

-spoiler both sides lie.


Heh factcheck.org, isn't that associated with Anhenberg (sp?) Project and thus tied to Barack Obama and Bill Ayers.

Only if you beleive in the delusional notion of guilt by 10th degree of association. Do you realize that Walter Annenburg was a Republican and close friend of President Ronald Reagon? Seriously. :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg


Your argument is faulty, Walter Annenberg was not a domestic terrorist.

And neither does the the Annenberg Public Policy Center or factcheck.org have anything to do with Bill Ayers.


Uh yes it does, because Ayers was involved with Factcheck.org.

some time as a strategy you should uh, keep your completly batsh!t crazy ass-ertions to yourself just so you can slip conservative ideas that make sense into the conversation.


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28 Mar 2011, 8:07 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
"If journalists are, in fact, biased toward liberalism, it's probably for the same reason teachers are-
they're educated."


Cute, I would argue it is brainwashing especially with the way educational standards have gone downhill.


go to factcheck.org (recomended by dick cheney)
or www.politifact.com
look at peoples ratings see which way the bias goes.

-spoiler both sides lie.


Heh factcheck.org, isn't that associated with Anhenberg (sp?) Project and thus tied to Barack Obama and Bill Ayers.

Only if you beleive in the delusional notion of guilt by 10th degree of association. Do you realize that Walter Annenburg was a Republican and close friend of President Ronald Reagon? Seriously. :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg


Your argument is faulty, Walter Annenberg was not a domestic terrorist.

And neither does the the Annenberg Public Policy Center or factcheck.org have anything to do with Bill Ayers.


Uh yes it does, because Ayers was involved with Factcheck.org.

Prove it.



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29 Mar 2011, 12:37 am

marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
"If journalists are, in fact, biased toward liberalism, it's probably for the same reason teachers are-
they're educated."


Cute, I would argue it is brainwashing especially with the way educational standards have gone downhill.


go to factcheck.org (recomended by dick cheney)
or www.politifact.com
look at peoples ratings see which way the bias goes.

-spoiler both sides lie.


Heh factcheck.org, isn't that associated with Anhenberg (sp?) Project and thus tied to Barack Obama and Bill Ayers.

Only if you beleive in the delusional notion of guilt by 10th degree of association. Do you realize that Walter Annenburg was a Republican and close friend of President Ronald Reagon? Seriously. :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg


Your argument is faulty, Walter Annenberg was not a domestic terrorist.

And neither does the the Annenberg Public Policy Center or factcheck.org have anything to do with Bill Ayers.


Uh yes it does, because Ayers was involved with Factcheck.org.

Prove it.


I've already proven it in other threads at least twice and you didn't pay attention the last two times. I really don't feel like wasting my time again finding the information so you can just ignore it and start running around claiming that Factcheck.org is a valid site.



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29 Mar 2011, 1:00 am

Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
"If journalists are, in fact, biased toward liberalism, it's probably for the same reason teachers are-
they're educated."


Cute, I would argue it is brainwashing especially with the way educational standards have gone downhill.


go to factcheck.org (recomended by dick cheney)
or www.politifact.com
look at peoples ratings see which way the bias goes.

-spoiler both sides lie.


Heh factcheck.org, isn't that associated with Anhenberg (sp?) Project and thus tied to Barack Obama and Bill Ayers.

Only if you beleive in the delusional notion of guilt by 10th degree of association. Do you realize that Walter Annenburg was a Republican and close friend of President Ronald Reagon? Seriously. :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg


Your argument is faulty, Walter Annenberg was not a domestic terrorist.


Ronald Reagan's administration illegally funded foreign terrorists who peddled drugs in America. So, Inuyasha, it looks like you admire a man who aided and abetted terrorists!! !! I think, based on you're logic, that it's time to bar you from all government positions and start tapping you're phone!


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29 Mar 2011, 10:48 am

Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
"If journalists are, in fact, biased toward liberalism, it's probably for the same reason teachers are-
they're educated."


Cute, I would argue it is brainwashing especially with the way educational standards have gone downhill.


go to factcheck.org (recomended by dick cheney)
or www.politifact.com
look at peoples ratings see which way the bias goes.

-spoiler both sides lie.


Heh factcheck.org, isn't that associated with Anhenberg (sp?) Project and thus tied to Barack Obama and Bill Ayers.

Only if you beleive in the delusional notion of guilt by 10th degree of association. Do you realize that Walter Annenburg was a Republican and close friend of President Ronald Reagon? Seriously. :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg


Your argument is faulty, Walter Annenberg was not a domestic terrorist.

And neither does the the Annenberg Public Policy Center or factcheck.org have anything to do with Bill Ayers.


Uh yes it does, because Ayers was involved with Factcheck.org.

Prove it.


I've already proven it in other threads at least twice and you didn't pay attention the last two times. I really don't feel like wasting my time again finding the information so you can just ignore it and start running around claiming that Factcheck.org is a valid site.

You did no such thing so stop acting like a condescending douchebag. I am already ten steps ahead of you. I do not live under a f*****g rock. I have heard the illogical and downright ret*d conspiracy brainwashed minions like you use to attack factcheck.org. The Chicago Annenberg Challange which Bill Ayers and Obama both served as directors for has nothing to do with factcheck.org. Nothing aside from the fact that they were both indirectly sponsored by and contain the name of a WEALTHY CONSERVATIVE FRIEND OF RONALD REAGAN WHO'S ORGANIZATION HEAVILY FUNDED THE CAMPAIGN OF SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN!



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29 Mar 2011, 11:03 am

Hmmm, for the record, in Quebec we have a few (public, meaning Radio-Canada) shows that encourage investigative journalism, one named "Enquête" treats a lot of subjects, politics included. It should also be noted that there is a law here in Canada regarding "access to information", meaning that if it is deemed important, government (federal or provincial) cannot hide it. <.<

I am not sure i recall hearing about such thing in the States... =/ But please tell me if you know otherwise.



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29 Mar 2011, 12:51 pm

marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
"If journalists are, in fact, biased toward liberalism, it's probably for the same reason teachers are-
they're educated."


Cute, I would argue it is brainwashing especially with the way educational standards have gone downhill.


go to factcheck.org (recomended by dick cheney)
or www.politifact.com
look at peoples ratings see which way the bias goes.

-spoiler both sides lie.


Heh factcheck.org, isn't that associated with Anhenberg (sp?) Project and thus tied to Barack Obama and Bill Ayers.

Only if you beleive in the delusional notion of guilt by 10th degree of association. Do you realize that Walter Annenburg was a Republican and close friend of President Ronald Reagon? Seriously. :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg


Your argument is faulty, Walter Annenberg was not a domestic terrorist.

And neither does the the Annenberg Public Policy Center or factcheck.org have anything to do with Bill Ayers.


Uh yes it does, because Ayers was involved with Factcheck.org.

Prove it.


I've already proven it in other threads at least twice and you didn't pay attention the last two times. I really don't feel like wasting my time again finding the information so you can just ignore it and start running around claiming that Factcheck.org is a valid site.

You did no such thing so stop acting like a condescending douchebag.

:roll:

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I am already ten steps ahead of you. I do not live under a f***ing rock.


Wow, someone is losing their temper, and actually you are not ten steps ahead of me, unless we're on a race track cause I passed you a while ago.

marshall wrote:
I have heard the illogical and downright ret*d conspiracy brainwashed minions like you use to attack factcheck.org.


Seriously, I suggest you calm down. If you persist in trying to start a flamewar, and I bolded and underlined for emphasis what you said that was way out of line, I will report you to a moderator and let them deal with it.

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The Chicago Annenberg Challange which Bill Ayers and Obama both served as directors for has nothing to do with factcheck.org.


Bill Ayers was the founder of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and they co-chaired it. Further this is not the only thing Ayers and Obama worked on together. In fact Ayers and his wife, introduced Barack to Michelle...

However Obama's associations did not end there.

We have Ayers and his wife, Reverand Wright, Rashid Khalidi, ACORN, and others... How many does it take before it is no longer a coincidence?

JERUSALEM – The board of a nonprofit organization on which Sen. Barack Obama served as a paid director alongside a confessed domestic terrorist granted funding to a controversial Arab group that mourns the establishment of Israel as a "catastrophe" and supports intense immigration reform, including providing drivers licenses and education to illegal aliens.

The co-founder of the Arab group in question, Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, also has held a fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi is a harsh critic of Israel, has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and reportedly has worked on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.

In 2001, the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based nonprofit that describes itself as a group helping the disadvantaged, provided a $40,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network, or AAAN, for which Khalidi's wife, Mona, serves as president. The Fund provided a second grant to the AAAN for $35,000 in 2002.

Obama was a director of the Woods Fund board from 1999 to Dec. 11, 2002, according to the Fund's website. According to tax filings, Obama received compensation of $6,000 per year for his service in 1999 and 2000.

Obama served on the Wood's Fund board alongside William C. Ayers, a member of the Weathermen terrorist group which sought to overthrow of the U.S. government and took responsibility for bombing the U.S. Capitol in 1971.


Read more: Obama worked with terrorist http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=57231#ixzz1I0n65bNm

Also LA Times, kinda proved the mainstream media can't be trusted.

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Nothing aside from the fact that they were both indirectly sponsored by and contain the name of a WEALTHY CONSERVATIVE FRIEND OF RONALD REAGAN WHO'S ORGANIZATION HEAVILY FUNDED THE CAMPAIGN OF SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN!


The man you are referring to died in 2002 if I remember correctly. Not saying all parts of this Foundation are radicals, but to imply that Ayers never had contact with the people at Factcheck.org is kinda dishonest, particularly since Universities tend to collaborate on things.



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29 Mar 2011, 6:07 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
using your honest logic the American Enterprise Institute is a terrorist front.
Norman Ornstein is on the board of the Annenberg foundation trust at sunnyands
Herbert Stein (a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and former Nixon aid) was a guest on Economics U$A (an annenberg funded television program)
I coud go on but I think that an honest person would see that the american far-right is in bed with Bill Ayers.
(who when I met him turned out to be a fairly pleasant man obsesed with education
but watch the documentory on the weathermen it is quite shocking they were nuts)


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29 Mar 2011, 11:18 pm

I'm not saying Obama is a terrorists, I'm saying he does not have good judgement and likely believes the same things the radicals he pals around with believe.



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30 Mar 2011, 12:09 am

Inuyasha wrote:
I'm not saying Obama is a terrorists, I'm saying he does not have good judgement and likely believes the same things the radicals he pals around with believe.


actually that is not what you are saying.
you were saying that factcheck.org was corrupt by a line of logic that would also make the american enterprise institute corrupt.
the topic is not obama .


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30 Mar 2011, 12:13 am

Inuyasha. If you want civility drop the patronizing tone.

You have nothing even close to evidence that Ayers had anything to do with factcheck.org. The only thing they have in common is a connection to the NAME of Walter Annenburg. That's it! If you can't admit that you were mistaken on this then I have absolutely no respect for you anymore. You are a simply a dishonest person.



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30 Mar 2011, 12:14 am

JakobVirgil wrote:
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I'm not saying Obama is a terrorists, I'm saying he does not have good judgement and likely believes the same things the radicals he pals around with believe.


actually that is not what you are saying.
you were saying that factcheck.org was corrupt by a line of logic that would also make the american enterprise institute corrupt.
the topic is not obama .

Only a person with absolutely zero integrity tries to change the topic to avoid being proven wrong.