Paul Ryan's outrageous use of the word "envy"

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14 Apr 2011, 1:15 pm

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It's annoying how quickly the sheeple pick up on talking points. Just saw a comment on facebook about envying rich people. If you're registered republican, you should probably just be executed to save the rest of us from having to hear the same phrases mindlessly repeated verbatim a few million times.


*anticipates Inuyasha's reply*



He's going through his Limbaugh tapes and Fox News Tivo's to find the right words to use.


First, I didn't even see this exchange till just now, second you just proved to everyone here you are a far-left radical. Seriously, suggesting someone should be executed because they don't agree with you. You are out of your flippin mind!
He was bound to show his true colours sooner or later. All the signs pointed to him being an overzealous self righteous socialist loony.


More just a general misanthrope who is sick of being surrounded by a world of morons.
You can always move to Cuba. I'm sure Castro would gladly embrace your ideals of violating the freedom of speech and the right to live of those who hold dissenting views.


I think ska just dislikes Inuyasha, not everyone who disagrees with him...


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14 Apr 2011, 1:17 pm

Vigilans wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Subotai wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
It's annoying how quickly the sheeple pick up on talking points. Just saw a comment on facebook about envying rich people. If you're registered republican, you should probably just be executed to save the rest of us from having to hear the same phrases mindlessly repeated verbatim a few million times.


*anticipates Inuyasha's reply*



He's going through his Limbaugh tapes and Fox News Tivo's to find the right words to use.


First, I didn't even see this exchange till just now, second you just proved to everyone here you are a far-left radical. Seriously, suggesting someone should be executed because they don't agree with you. You are out of your flippin mind!
He was bound to show his true colours sooner or later. All the signs pointed to him being an overzealous self righteous socialist loony.


More just a general misanthrope who is sick of being surrounded by a world of morons.
You can always move to Cuba. I'm sure Castro would gladly embrace your ideals of violating the freedom of speech and the right to live of those who hold dissenting views.


I think ska just dislikes Inuyasha, not everyone who disagrees with him...


More the whole subset of people like Inuyasha.


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14 Apr 2011, 1:30 pm

skafather84 wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Subotai wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
It's annoying how quickly the sheeple pick up on talking points. Just saw a comment on facebook about envying rich people. If you're registered republican, you should probably just be executed to save the rest of us from having to hear the same phrases mindlessly repeated verbatim a few million times.


*anticipates Inuyasha's reply*



He's going through his Limbaugh tapes and Fox News Tivo's to find the right words to use.


First, I didn't even see this exchange till just now, second you just proved to everyone here you are a far-left radical. Seriously, suggesting someone should be executed because they don't agree with you. You are out of your flippin mind!
He was bound to show his true colours sooner or later. All the signs pointed to him being an overzealous self righteous socialist loony.


More just a general misanthrope who is sick of being surrounded by a world of morons.
You can always move to Cuba. I'm sure Castro would gladly embrace your ideals of violating the freedom of speech and the right to live of those who hold dissenting views.


I think ska just dislikes Inuyasha, not everyone who disagrees with him...


More the whole subset of people like Inuyasha.


I don't blame you, look at those eyes- what in the hell happened during birth? And who has white hair in their mid 20s? (I assume that's his age bracket). Looks like a girl to me. I guess you have to dress up a little if you want Glenn Beck to give you flattering attentions. I also wonder whats up with the cat ears
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14 Apr 2011, 1:32 pm

Vigilans wrote:
I think ska just dislikes Inuyasha, not everyone who disagrees with him...
Actually he is consistently self righteous and pompous towards those he disagrees with in general.
skafather84 wrote:
It's annoying how quickly the sheeple pick up on talking points. Just saw a comment on facebook about envying rich people. If you're registered republican, you should probably just be executed to save the rest of us from having to hear the same phrases mindlessly repeated verbatim a few million times.
Hence why I called him a socialist loony. He thinks it is justified to execute those who have dissenting views. And skafather, I don't care if you wanna play this off as a joke. I gave you the benefit of the doubt last time, but this time it's clear and it makes me think you weren't joking the last time. I see no punchline or satire here, all I see is the raving of a loony.

skafather84 wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Subotai wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
It's annoying how quickly the sheeple pick up on talking points. Just saw a comment on facebook about envying rich people. If you're registered republican, you should probably just be executed to save the rest of us from having to hear the same phrases mindlessly repeated verbatim a few million times.


*anticipates Inuyasha's reply*



He's going through his Limbaugh tapes and Fox News Tivo's to find the right words to use.


First, I didn't even see this exchange till just now, second you just proved to everyone here you are a far-left radical. Seriously, suggesting someone should be executed because they don't agree with you. You are out of your flippin mind!
He was bound to show his true colours sooner or later. All the signs pointed to him being an overzealous self righteous socialist loony.


More just a general misanthrope who is sick of being surrounded by a world of morons.
You can always move to Cuba. I'm sure Castro would gladly embrace your ideals of violating the freedom of speech and the right to live of those who hold dissenting views.


You are aware that Fidel Castro no longer holds power, right?
How recent was this? Either way Cuba is still a commie country and I'm sure you'll feel welcome there.



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14 Apr 2011, 1:44 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
I think ska just dislikes Inuyasha, not everyone who disagrees with him...
Actually he is consistently self righteous and pompous towards those he disagrees with in general.
skafather84 wrote:
It's annoying how quickly the sheeple pick up on talking points. Just saw a comment on facebook about envying rich people. If you're registered republican, you should probably just be executed to save the rest of us from having to hear the same phrases mindlessly repeated verbatim a few million times.
Hence why I called him a socialist loony. He thinks it is justified to execute those who have dissenting views. And skafather, I don't care if you wanna play this off as a joke. I gave you the benefit of the doubt last time, but this time it's clear and it makes me think you weren't joking the last time. I see no punchline or satire here, all I see is the raving of a loony.



The literalism thing also increases the feelings of mass murder. Not everything is to be taken at face value. Especially such absurd statements. Unlike republicans, I don't believe in rounding up a whole group of people and torturing them indefinitely. That's for the rightists to do to Muslims and liberals who dare challenge their right to indiscriminately kill brown people in Iraq.


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14 Apr 2011, 1:47 pm

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How recent was this? Either way Cuba is still a commie country and I'm sure you'll feel welcome there.


A couple years ago the seat was passed on to his brother Raul, it was also around the same time that the US started to make motions as if they were going to ease up on the trade restrictions with Cuba. According to Wikipedia, February 2008.


So....you need to catch up by a couple years.


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14 Apr 2011, 1:48 pm

Not to mention the Cuba rhetoric rings pretty damned shallow since the Cold War ended and the USA supports numerous dictators abroad.


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14 Apr 2011, 3:32 pm

skafather84 wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
I think ska just dislikes Inuyasha, not everyone who disagrees with him...
Actually he is consistently self righteous and pompous towards those he disagrees with in general.
skafather84 wrote:
It's annoying how quickly the sheeple pick up on talking points. Just saw a comment on facebook about envying rich people. If you're registered republican, you should probably just be executed to save the rest of us from having to hear the same phrases mindlessly repeated verbatim a few million times.
Hence why I called him a socialist loony. He thinks it is justified to execute those who have dissenting views. And skafather, I don't care if you wanna play this off as a joke. I gave you the benefit of the doubt last time, but this time it's clear and it makes me think you weren't joking the last time. I see no punchline or satire here, all I see is the raving of a loony.



The literalism thing also increases the feelings of mass murder. Not everything is to be taken at face value. Especially such absurd statements. Unlike republicans, I don't believe in rounding up a whole group of people and torturing them indefinitely. That's for the rightists to do to Muslims and liberals who dare challenge their right to indiscriminately kill brown people in Iraq.
Actually one way I deviate from the diagnosis is that I don't take things literally. I connect dots and look for patterns. Tell me, within what context was your statement meant to be absurd? You ranted about envy and talking points, and then you said Republicans should be executed. In what way is that supposed to be hyperbole, satire, or even have a punchline? It's pretty consistent so there's no twist at the end which means there's no punchline. A hyperbole is exaggeration for the purpose of evoking strong emotion or emphasing something. You seem to be emphasizing their immorality and evoking strong emotion of disgust. And of course, there's no satire unless you're satirizing yourself.

This is exactly why I don't believe you when you say it isn't meant to be taken serious. Humour doesn't come out of your ass, it has a purpose. What was the purpose of that?

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How recent was this? Either way Cuba is still a commie country and I'm sure you'll feel welcome there.


A couple years ago the seat was passed on to his brother Raul, it was also around the same time that the US started to make motions as if they were going to ease up on the trade restrictions with Cuba. According to Wikipedia, February 2008.


So....you need to catch up by a couple years.
Perhaps. It's strange I've never heard it on the news or never even heard anyone mention it all those years.

Anyways, I've done some reading on Paul Ryan's cuts and it is exactly what's needed, though it needs to be accompanied by increasing sources of revenue which is another story. He is also for cutting corporate welfare which is also good since these bailouts are BS. Both the Dems and the Reps have always ended up expanding the Government and spending like crazy. Oh, and before anyone wants to point out military spending, the money that has been put into the War on Terror isn't even nearly as much as the money put into entitlement:
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:lol: That explains why liberals don't like the emotionally charged rhetoric of Fox News...


most liberal voted Obama because "he is black so a good choice!"



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:lol: That explains why liberals don't like the emotionally charged rhetoric of Fox News...


most liberal voted Obama because "he is black so a good choice!"


I want to get you a job with Comedy Central, and I'm completely serious- you're absolutely gold


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14 Apr 2011, 3:49 pm

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:lol: That explains why liberals don't like the emotionally charged rhetoric of Fox News...


most liberal voted Obama because "he is black so a good choice!"


What a coincidence! Most conservative voters voted against Obama and demand his birth certificate because "he is black and can speak articulately so he must be a foreigner!!"


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That scum, that lowest form of life Paul Ryan has done it again. He denounced the criticisms of his Plan by Barack Obama as being a plan to stoke "envy"... envy of the rich, presumably, the rich whose tax burden would be substantially reduced under his Plan as the social contract is rewritten to rob the vast majority of the population blind. Gone will be Medicare, gone will be retirement, tax burdens will increase for most people. This is not about envy, this is about being robbed. Now Ryan says that those who object to the robbery by those who have everything "envy" those people? Why he doesn't have a whole legion protecting him 24 hours a day is something I don't understand, American people are so mild-mannered!

Medicare going way, retirement benefits going away, tax burdens increasing will all happen unless Ryan's plan is put into place. The handout culture we have right now is is simply unsustainable.


Abject nonsense! There's more wealth and productivity than ever before. How can anyone claim the meagre social security system to be unsustainable? Debt to GDP ratio is not significantly worse than it's ever been and any increases in that are the result of deregulation and gambling done by the plutocratic class whose power has been increasing as a result of the Reagan Revolution to the point where practically everyone else is disenfranchised. That is the real problem here. These plutocrats demand the rewriting of the social contract now that they have the power to force it down everyone's throats.



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I want to get you a job with Comedy Central, and I'm completely serious- you're absolutely gold


I've sent my curriculum vitae....they said the jobs were taken by Paul Krugman,Michael Moore,Nancy Pelosi,Al Gore, Naomi Klein and Noam Chomsky



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To describe it as "envy" to oppose the disenfranchisement of most people by this class with so much wealth they can buy the politicians and make them do their bidding and further distort the system to benefit themselves, to oppose what will be for most people real hardship unnecessarily caused by these little tyrants, that is completely intolerable. It's not envy to be angry at the prospect of being robbed.



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LibertarianAS wrote:
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:lol: That explains why liberals don't like the emotionally charged rhetoric of Fox News...


most liberal voted Obama because "he is black so a good choice!"


What a coincidence! Most conservative voters voted against Obama and demand his birth certificate because "he is black and can speak articulately so he must be a foreigner!!"


Did you make a vetted, statistically well structured poll to come to the conclusion or are you letting your political bigotry run a bit wild?,

Obama would be flawed if he were lily white born in a Pennsylvania Farmhouse and his birth witnessed by fifty Amish elders, just and righteous men all. Obama is a Statist. He thinks government is Good, when at best it is a Necessary Evil

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I want to get you a job with Comedy Central, and I'm completely serious- you're absolutely gold


I've sent my curriculum vitae....they said the jobs were taken by Paul Krugman,Michael Moore,Nancy Pelosi,Al Gore, Naomi Klein and Noam Chomsky


I hope that someday, Al Gore can find Manbearpig, and achieve his dreams!


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