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17 Apr 2011, 1:49 pm

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There is just no way He planned for me to have my third child aborted ...

Its possible that was with Gods will ...

How so?


As I said before everything happens for a reason, such as a test of faith.



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17 Apr 2011, 1:50 pm

Testing of faith, I suppose.
It would have or not been in Gods blueprint of your life



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17 Apr 2011, 1:51 pm

woodss82 wrote:
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There is just no way He planned for me to have my third child aborted ...

Its possible that was with Gods will ...

How so?

As I said before everything happens for a reason ...

Says who?

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... such as a test of faith.

Whose faith might you believe was being tested when I forced my first wife to have my third child aborted?


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17 Apr 2011, 1:52 pm

Both yours and hers.
But abortions to me is utter murder.



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17 Apr 2011, 1:58 pm

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Both yours and hers.

How was my faith being tested by God allegedly planning for me to have my third child aborted?

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But abortions to me is utter murder.

At least in some cases, we agree ... and now you would have me believe God planned for me to force one to happen?


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17 Apr 2011, 1:59 pm

Something tells me that you are on the wind up :lol: :lol: :lol:

But assuming you're actually serious, God chose for me to be an athiest, and is then going to send me to suffer in hell for eternity as punishment for simply following his predetermined plan?

If this is what you believe God to be, then how can you possibly love this God? Surely this would make him anything but a benevolant God. More like the universe's biggest douchebag



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17 Apr 2011, 2:04 pm

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Something tells me that you are on the wind up :lol: :lol: :lol:

But assuming you're actually serious, God chose for me to be an athiest, and is then going to send me to suffer in hell for eternity as punishment for simply following his predetermined will?

If this is what you believe God to be, then how can you possibly love this God? Surely this would make him anything but a benevolant God. More like the universe's biggest douchebag

The other possibility being that there is no such place as hell and that he talks out of all sides of his mouth to shape history. Butterflies and hurricanes type stuff.


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17 Apr 2011, 6:06 pm

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I consider there is a God, and and that belief is not nonsense or rubbish.


Based on what empirical evidence?

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17 Apr 2011, 6:12 pm

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But assuming you're actually serious, God chose for me to be an athiest, and is then going to send me to suffer in hell for eternity as punishment for simply following his predetermined plan?

If this is what you believe God to be, then how can you possibly love this God? Surely this would make him anything but a benevolant God. More like the universe's biggest douchebag


God's choosing... topic

god is indeed loving. :twisted:


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17 Apr 2011, 6:16 pm

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I consider there is a God, and and that belief is not nonsense or rubbish.

I had not said it was.


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17 Apr 2011, 6:18 pm

Butterflies wrote:
Something tells me that you are on the wind up :lol: :lol: :lol:

But assuming you're actually serious, God chose for me to be an athiest, and is then going to send me to suffer in hell for eternity as punishment for simply following his predetermined plan?

If this is what you believe God to be, then how can you possibly love this God? Surely this would make him anything but a benevolant God. More like the universe's biggest douchebag


:lol: Predestination is the worst kind of garbage.


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17 Apr 2011, 6:24 pm

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Predestination is the worst kind of garbage.

Not when properly understood ...

"... those whom He knew beforehand, He also ordained (predestined) beforehand to be conformed to the likeness of His Son ..." (Romans 8:29)

... and "chosen" is another term often grossly misunderstood.

Neither "predestined" nor "chosen" ever refers to anything related to condemnation.


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17 Apr 2011, 6:27 pm

Either way, I burn in the eternal fires of hell, and god is a big jealous kid :lol: :wink:


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17 Apr 2011, 6:31 pm

It would be so comforting to believe the OP. I guess that's why millions of people fall into it. The truth of a complex world scares most people. I think it is possible to find liberation within that- I have some control over my own existence.



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17 Apr 2011, 6:34 pm

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Either way, I burn in the eternal fires of hell ...

I doubt that.

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... and god is ... jealous ...

Yes ...

"Yahuah is ... not wishing that any should perish ..." (2 Peter 3:9)
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17 Apr 2011, 6:36 pm

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It would be so comforting to believe the OP ...

There is some truth there, but not as presented.


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