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25 Apr 2011, 10:40 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:

Since the system allows decimal numbers (i.e. 1.5, 3.7, 2.5, etc) you can use "2.5" as a de facto "sometimes".


I just corrected it, thanks for that :)


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26 Apr 2011, 1:14 pm

The use of "often" as the mean point has the effect of badly skewing the result--a "always wrong" and a "never wrong" will have the same polling weight as two "often wrong" and greater polling weight than two "sometimes wrong".

That being said,

2.5 3 2.5 2.5 4 2 2.5 2.5


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26 Apr 2011, 2:15 pm

visagrunt wrote:
The use of "often" as the mean point has the effect of badly skewing the result--a "always wrong" and a "never wrong" will have the same polling weight as two "often wrong" and greater polling weight than two "sometimes wrong".


Yeah, it kinda does.


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26 Apr 2011, 5:54 pm

1. Abortion is sometimes wrong.
2. War is often wrong.
3 The Market is sometimes wrong.
4 Government Intervention is sometimes wrong.
5 Coercion is nearly always wrong.
6 The Police are sometimes/often wrong.
7 The Right is often/nearly always wrong.
8 The Left is sometimes wrong.

2.5,3,2.5,2.5,4,2.8,3.5,2.5

lol I edited my answer and found the original to be quoted before I could post the edited version. This edited post is closer to my views.


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26 Apr 2011, 5:56 pm

TheBicyclingGuitarist wrote:
1. Abortion is sometimes wrong.
2. War is often wrong.
3 The Market is often wrong.
4 Government Intervention is often wrong.
5 Coercion is nearly always wrong.
6 The Police are often wrong.
7 The Right is often/nearly always wrong.
8 The Left is sometimes wrong.

2.5,3,3,3,4,3,3.5,2.5


The Left is not even wrong.

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26 Apr 2011, 8:48 pm

visagrunt wrote:
The use of "often" as the mean point has the effect of badly skewing the result--a "always wrong" and a "never wrong" will have the same polling weight as two "often wrong" and greater polling weight than two "sometimes wrong".

That being said,

2.5 3 2.5 2.5 4 2 2.5 2.5


assuming that is it a poll.
your answers actually produce distances to be used in a relation.
you could think of the often as "half?


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26 Apr 2011, 9:15 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
1. Abortion is ______ wrong.

"Unwanted pregnancy" is a travesty. Can you think of just horrible it sounds to call a pregnancy "unwanted"? Sex education and birth control should be readily available to make abortion less necessary to begin with.
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2. War is _____ wrong.

Wars of invasion and occupation are wrong. Military intervention may be justified to stop genocide and other crimes against humanity.
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3 The Market is _______ wrong.

The market can, in my opinion, misallocate resources at times, but this is not a moral kind of wrong. Where the market fails for the disabled or unemployed,
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4 Government Intervention is _______ wrong.

The government can provide a moral good in regulating some aspects of commerce and providing a welfare safety net.
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5 Coercion is _______ wrong.

Coercion is usually wrong, but force is feasible in self-defense, for example.
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6 The Police are _________ wrong.

The police are more force than intelligence. I find the law-and-order/punishment mentality to be fundamentally wrongheaded.
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7 The Right is _______ wrong.

The Right is what I'd consider to be the political opposition, and I believe their positions are often mistaken or founded on principles I don't share.
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8 The Left is ________ wrong.

I tend to sympathize with the principles of the Left more than I do those of the Right.



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26 Apr 2011, 9:27 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
1. Abortion is ______ wrong.

"Unwanted pregnancy" is a travesty. Can you think of just horrible it sounds to call a pregnancy "unwanted"? Sex education and birth control should be readily available to make abortion less necessary to begin with.
JakobVirgil wrote:
2. War is _____ wrong.

Wars of invasion and occupation are wrong. Military intervention may be justified to stop genocide and other crimes against humanity.
JakobVirgil wrote:
3 The Market is _______ wrong.

The market can, in my opinion, misallocate resources at times, but this is not a moral kind of wrong. Where the market fails for the disabled or unemployed,
JakobVirgil wrote:
4 Government Intervention is _______ wrong.

The government can provide a moral good in regulating some aspects of commerce and providing a welfare safety net.
JakobVirgil wrote:
5 Coercion is _______ wrong.

Coercion is usually wrong, but force is feasible in self-defense, for example.
JakobVirgil wrote:
6 The Police are _________ wrong.

The police are more force than intelligence. I find the law-and-order/punishment mentality to be fundamentally wrongheaded.
JakobVirgil wrote:
7 The Right is _______ wrong.

The Right is what I'd consider to be the political opposition, and I believe their positions are often mistaken or founded on principles I don't share.
JakobVirgil wrote:
8 The Left is ________ wrong.

I tend to sympathize with the principles of the Left more than I do those of the Right.


stop all the thoughtfullness :lol:


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27 Apr 2011, 12:14 am

My answers do not fit with the choices given so, I will answer with my own thoughts and let you figure the rest out. Please do not take offense. I know it sounds like I am being a smart as* but, I swear this is how I view things.

1. Abortion is the destruction of life and a personal ethical distinction.
2. War is destruction of life and a community ethical distinction.
3 The Market is a means for me to sell my stuff to someone who needs the stuff I have.
4 Government Intervention is an act of coming between two things.
5 Coercion is manipulation.
6 The Police are there to protect your rights and property.
7 The Right is on one side and ...
8 The Left is on the other.


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27 Apr 2011, 12:50 am

3, 4, 3, 3, 5, 3, 3, 3


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27 Apr 2011, 6:34 pm

I think I will collect the data and make the relation tommorow if there is no objections.
I appreiciate people with naunced veiwpoints but I can only use numbers
so I apologize in advance for not including everyone.


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28 Apr 2011, 5:54 pm

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the is the outcome for what it is worth if you share a edge with someone it means you have a closeness to them in views.
the primary information in the graph is how we relate to each other not if our view are right or left.
the green circles are singletons who did not have a close relation with anyone.


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28 Apr 2011, 5:56 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
Image
the is the outcome for what it is worth if you share a edge with someone it means you have a closeness to them in views.
the primary information in the graph is how we relate to each other not if our view are right or left.
the green circles are singletons who did not have a close relation with anyone.


Does this mean I am extra special?


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28 Apr 2011, 6:00 pm

HerrGrimm wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Image
the is the outcome for what it is worth if you share a edge with someone it means you have a closeness to them in views.
the primary information in the graph is how we relate to each other not if our view are right or left.
the green circles are singletons who did not have a close relation with anyone.


Does this mean I am extra special?


yes, :lol: it mean your views on the subjects of the test are very different from everybody elses.
(actually you are the farthest outlier)


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28 Apr 2011, 6:05 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
(actually you are the farthest outlier)


Well considering the fact of what happened when I first posted here I would like to hope so.


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28 Apr 2011, 7:45 pm

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