Jehovah's Witnesses face gunfire at 'Catholic home'

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*sigh*


http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/today/i ... nts-2.html

You must have been a Boy Scout.... Or have hording issues... Cuz that's a little TOO prepared. lol

Last year my friend was handing out invitations to the memorial of Jesus Christ. At one door the man pulled a shotgun and threatened to kill him if he didn't leave his property.

LOL you never know when 30 giant black dildos will come in handy- renovating the basement, putting new tiles down on the patio, repaving the driveway...

(:lmao: at the Boy Scout joke)

That's horrible and so unnecessary. I find it amazing that religion can invoke such hateful and violent behavior.

While my son was in Cub Scouts, I had situations in which we had to knock on people's doors for fundraiser's or food donation campaigns. I can admit there were a few times that I didn't see the "No Soliciting" sign and was met by very irate homeowners, though no one ever pulled a gun on me.

I find it odd too. I have had a few leave me with the option of being rude and closing the door in their face if I didn't want to spend a half an hour talking to them, but I have never had one try to prevent me from closing the door or try to force his way into my home. We only have the one news account of this story and apparently the reporter didn't think to ask why she didn't do that.

As I said earlier I invited them in a few times (the leader of that team was a really nice guy), they never stayed for more than half an hour so I never even had to ask them to leave. I didn't even challenge it when they changed the subject when they didn't have answers to my questions, I would simply refuse to consider the point unless they did and would ask more questions about the new subject. They gave up on me in less than a month and wouldn't even knock on my door.

Once should have been enough, but "ignored repeated demands" likely includes a bit of hyperbole.


Ah yes, and as Flip used to say, "Those devils made me do it!"

Come on, lady ...


Nah, just trying to outsmart or out-think you while trying to earn another ribbon or two.


That statement is absolutely outrageous ...

Are the JWs now carrying assault rifles or do they yet simply have their "swords" (bibles) in their hands?


Sure, you agree with the part that says you have a right to go to the door and try to win another ribbon or two if you might happen to sway someone ...

... and there is the problem here: The rest of us "earn our points", so to speak, by not being obnoxious asses who walk up to someone and do not even introduce ourselves before beginning some canned rhetoric and trying to be sure we get it all in like we have been coached to do before finally "giving up" or whatever and either walking or running away.


Knocking on doors has absolutely nothing to do with anything here.


Not really, but yes, police officers are about the only ones who can legally use the point of a gun to force compliance.


And that has precisely what to do with anything whatsoever here?!

That "witness of whatever-it-is" could easily have ended up in jail for trespassing, not for witnessing.


Whoa! I thought you had said you were going to pray for everybody involved in that ordeal! Mockery just somehow does not seem to fit that bill!

In any case, and JWs or not, and if we had happened to be in the same assembly at the time, you would have gotten quite an ass-chewing out of me for making a thread like this in order to try to help "prove" a poor ol' trespassin' "witness" or two had been in some way just so horribly persecuted -- uh huh, oh yeah -- while merely seeking yet another ribbon!

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If the churches were really doing their job this wouldn't have happened. Their church is suppose to teach people what being a Christian is really all about. Yelling at people then grabbing a weapon with the intent to kill is not what being a Christian is about. I can still pray for the couple because I don't blame them for their actions; I blame their religion. There's definitely a high degree of moral decay happening in society. In these critical last days people are fierce, and claim to have a form of godly devotion but prove false to its power. (2 Timothy 3:1-5)

Ach, akhi, the Church needs to teach you this:

It is not the Church teaching that can get people to do good. That comes from listening to God, not getting taight in church.

HAHAHA You need to learn to ask the difficult questions my dear... I can keep them coming for months... actually I had a pioneer that visited for a couple of months.. My mom had one that took 3 years to give up on her... Though he quite insulted her when he finally did, and she's likely to never let another one in.

Lee.... I think maybe you've had too much sugar today. You're criticizing everyone... the knockers, the gun-toters, the poster.... and it's just kind of making you look a bit like a snarky ass. Maybe a little nap will make you feel better.

What makes you think I wasn't asking tough questions? I just wasn't insisting on answers because I learned a long time ago that what people don't say is every bit as important as what they do. It wasn't my objective to keep them coming back, I was being polite and trying to learn something about them first hand. I can respect people I disagree with even if I don't respect their opinions. We were both very open, honest and frank (unlike to OP) and there are certain aspects of their organization that I find impressive like the lack of a paid clergy and not passing around a collection basket during services. However there are too many aspects of their theology that I simply cannot agree with.



I don't think so, Lee just enjoys debating with hopeless causes, he knows he is not going to accomplish anything.

This is not a major incident. The Allentown paper only summarized the story from what appears to be a free weekly whose primary function is to supply inexpensive advertising to businesses on the west side of the Delaware Water Gap. There wouldn't have been a lot of effort put into it so we don't really know what happened. I suggest we hijack this thread for a discussion on how to deal with overly aggressive evangelists.

Ohhhh I think you misunderstood my intent. I appreciate that when I ask a tough question, they go and find the answer. They cause me to look at things in ways I'd never considered. And, I give huge credit as I feel that on average, JW's and Mormons know the Bible probably better than anyone. Not only that, but I can't imagine going out everyday and anticipating the dozens of doors that will be slammed in their face, or the rude comments.. I respect that knock on people's doors because their faith tells them they're supposed to go forth and spread the word of God. You're right, I don't have to agree to respect... and I appreciate the stimulating conversation.

Hypothetically? Cuz I've never had an aggressive one... Ohhhh ohhh... we aren't just talking about door knocking here, right? Can this include the prick down in Florida who burns Korans or the idiot who pickets funerals? That could be a fun and entertaining topic.

My advisor put up with me for 4 long years at college, and that is an accomplishment in and of itself. He has a place in heaven for him saved, so I have to tell the Witnesses they have to make better choices since they are down to 143,999 seats.

I'm no atheist or anything but I find door to door peddling of religion to be kind of tacky in a way.
I've never had a JW (or any other) push the issue after I've kindly but firmly said I wasn't interested.