Research Center Under Fire for 'Adjusted' Sea-Level Data

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I guess it never occurred to you to just stop saying the kind of stuff that caused people to call you a racist, anti-semite, or compare you to Hitler...

You mean to simply shut up and not disagree with people out of fear of being called names... Nope, and quite frankly I'm not the kind of person to cower in fear, instead of standing up and doing the right thing, if I simply cowered like you want it would be the same as letting evil win.

It's partially true. I say partially because while I do harbor some racist sentiments, there are liberals on this forum that interpret anything I say or do as part of a white supremacist agenda. In their mind, growing to dislike most other groups in my community due to chronic bad experiences growing up with them automatically amounts to being a card-carrying 'klan member. I've never had white supremacist ties, I don't use stormfront, and I don't associate with anyone base solely because they hold some degree of racist sentiments. Contrary to popular belief, don't use race as the basis for my political views. Screaming racism when I attack Obama or illegal immigration is just an old cheap liberal trick to try and shut me up. I'd call him a idiot but that's degrading to idiots, and it doesn't matter if he was born in Kenya or Canada questions about his birth still linger. I'd vote for a black president if there is ever one worth voting for (which will probably rule out Herman Cain and his lack of credentials). Illegal immigration is not a race. There are Canadians, Europeans, Africans, and also lots of middle eastern groups that have dropped terrorist and militant religious literature. The debate tends to center around Mexico a lot, but that's because that one country makes up about 56% of the problem. For all the claims of racism made against me, if someone prided themselves on being American over their race, we'd probably see eye to eye reasonably well.

However, dragging race into a global warming debate is absurd. That's another liberal trick: when they can't debate the subject matter, attack the individual.

That would be a stupid thing to do because that would amount to allowing yourself to be shouted down anytime someone disagrees with you. People that scream racism without engaging in debate are usually brainwashed idiots incapable of independent thought or intellectual cowards who are afraid of taking someone on in a debate.

People that mindlessly scream racism might as well scream "four legs good, who legs bad!".

That's all I needed to know, it sounds like you were deliberately taken way out of context by some, and others didn't catch the fact you were being taken out of context. I respectfully disagree with you on Herman Cain (He's been a successful corporate exec, ran multiple companies and small businesses, tells the truth, and isn't a socialist crackpot), I like the fact he isn't a professional politician (he just needs a good VP if he gets the nomination so he has someone with knowledge of foreign policy).

Again quoting someone out of context to smear them as he and I predicted.

...And I guess it never occurred to you that anyone who begs to differ from the sacred cow of politically correct thinking isn't necessarily a racist. The fact that I don't think white people are to blame for everything doesn't make me a racist, it makes you pathetic for smearing anyone who doesn't share your views of politically correct thinking.

While I do think dionysian is arrogant and quick to smear, calling someone a racist doesn't necessary imply that the person is hardcore racist. I don't think JB wants to lynch em all, I just think he doesn't wanna have anything to do with their communities.

Anyways, I don't know jack s**t about global warming or climate change, but why is it that most of the controversy is a media thing? Is it really possible for a 97% scientific consensus to be a conspiracy?

Did you stop and consider the 97% statement is a lie created by one side on the debate in an attempt to silence debate, because there is evidence that scientists have been blacklisted when they attempt to publish studies that contradict the global warming hysteria.

I didn't really pay attention to what started this tangent, but the thread itself is bogus. There was no deception or improper conduct on the part of the research lab. This is a fake controversy.

Yeah, liberals condition themselves to have a mindless, involuntary reaction to anything perceived as racism the same way Pavlov's dogs responded to his bell. It doesn't matter if you are addressing a real grievance over a local social issue or ranting about a non-white public figure even if it's not about race.


No s**t, I just said that!

That is not necessarily a bad thing. Try visiting certain shops (the ones with those ugly 'no foreigner' signs on them) in Japan and tell me a 'lets not ever speak up' is a better idea.

I started this tangent, when I pointed out another one of John_Browning's many lies.

Word of advice Orwell, if you are going to make an argument like that, you better be sure there isn't anyone on the opposing side of the debate that actually knows something about scientific integrity and has had to do experiments to get one's Bachelor's Degree. It doesn't matter that I'm not in climate science, there are things that are well known as violating scientific ethics across the board. One of which is you never alter your data, and if it is a control variable that is across the board you always keep a copy of the original results and you publicly explain how you did the analysis up front.

Fox News is in the right on this Orwell, the scientists broke ethical rules even if you are too partisan to acknowledge that fact.

Well, it sure looks like Orwell has been put in his place.

Inuyasha, you're an idiot. Why not actually read your own damn source? The researchers never lied- they were adjusting the data for a specific reason that they documented and justified. Fox's so-called "expert" on the other side is a misinformed lawyer. At no point did the researchers lie or falsify their data. The fact that you are too damn stupid to understand how science is done doesn't incriminate the scientists.