How can anyone with AS be a conservative?

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"Mindblind" is the new "Closed-Minded" - both are merely liberalist buzzwords.

What the f**k is this. All you are is a bitter curmudgeon who likes to self-aggrandize and b***h about how you walked to school ten miles barefoot through ten foot deep snow. Proving yourself to people is all you care about.

Exactly. I just assume he has some extreme personality disorder and leave it alone.

Healthcare is a very confused issue, and the notion is often extended that the republican/conservative solution is "For f*** sake die already!". Conservatives would rather it be leaner and better built, similar for central government and the school system (throwing money at a structure as well doesn't insure that its solving anything or getting any better - a few people get to feel warm and fuzzy about it but they're mostly the same people collecting the cash and taking vacations with it at the other end).

I think for a lot of us fiscal conservatism and actually having a country left standing to enjoy the rest of our lives or struggles is really it - we prefer that to bilking the man, getting fat off the system for five or ten years just to see our society collapse beneath us.

Of course I know - that's being spoken to deaf ears and people will keep asking this question along with ones like "Why do you want to see us in a banana republic?" or "Why do you want poor people to starve to death?" - on that definition, no one's a conservative though I get the impression that these are distinctly liberal definitions of conservatism which make the topic a bit difficult to discuss sometimes when you have to deal with wildly disparate ideas on what the reality of people's positions are.

Well ... some people only seem to care about whining over how they have life soooo rough, and how they deserve a hand-out from the rest of us just for the sake of having been born.

Someone call the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance!

You are free to assume what you will - my livelihood and success do not depend on your blighted opinions.

Another thing I'll clarify though - I know we have a wide variety of functioning ranges, these come with both lighter or harder circumstances in terms of finance, additionally greater or lesser blindspots to what the rest of the world goes through on a regular basis.

I'd still say that while people like myself should never have to collect social security (at least before 66, 67, or whatever the retirement age is now) unless we break a leg or have some other debilitating condition. People who are much more profoundly effected, up to moderate HFA, severe AS or medium-severe, if you can't make it above the poverty line by any means you should have help. Then again for aspies and people with disabilities in general who aren't in that situation and can sustain gainful employment - there should be agencies and assistance but nothing like handouts, much more like geared employment agencies who'd perhaps help them fight right-fit situations and cultures where both their gifts and their natural brick walls are accounted for appropriately.

Hear! Hear!

"Give a man a fish...": Handouts create dependencies, which can be (and often are) exploited.

"Teach a man to fish ...": Vocational training programs put people to work, thus giving them no small measure of pride and self-sufficiency.

Stop projecting. You're the one constantly bitching about how hard your life was.

It looks like a lot of a**holes get misdiagnosed with aspergers syndrome due to the whole "lack of empathy" myth.

The question is absurd. When I first realized my probable spectrality I hypothesized - one does formulate these things - that those with similarly different minds would also be emotion filtering skeptical Thinkers.

After accessing more data it became clear that the AS factor is NOT strong enough to override other mental parameters. That in fact the proportions of emotion filterers, skeptics, and Thinkers are not significantly different from what we observe in the world at large.

I have no idea what would incline one to be either a Conservative or a Liberal [which are very different categories from conservative and liberal]. I - being a skeptical Thinker - do not fit well with either group.

I do know - know - that there is nothing in AS that precludes one being an adherent to an available ideology nor an enthusiastic supporter - or heckler - at a rally.

Those Wrong Planeteers who are Socialized or Socializers are more likely to be on thr Liberal bandwagon simply because that is the loudest, most populous bandwagon going., but there is nothing barring their imprinting on the Conservative platform.

Other groups are less predictable. I expect the majority of Thinkers and Dreamers will - like me - be Green Monkey to both Big- and LittleEndians. After all, I like spam fried with a slice of American cheese on top.

Another observation - I think the primary and secondary schools really break down when they don't bother measuring each student's aptitudes, traits, and start giving them ideas of what they may want to consider being when they grow up. NT's need that TLC just as much IMO and it seems like having good HR-like guidance departments as well as even working with students to even teach them how they learn best.

For both of us I think its not a "Throw them to the wolves to see if they float", obviously if they fail its a setback for all involved and if it happens too often its perhaps an issue with the system rather than necessarily them always. Yet another reason I'm conservative - I'd rather resolve society's inefficiencies and inadequacies in how it deals with its fellow man the right way (common-sense structural fixes) rather than fattening the funding to institutional methods that we see more and more every day aren't working. For all the lattes, palm pilots, and glass towers we have it seems like we're still pretty close to the bronze age on dealing with each other as well as understanding the wealth in properly cultivating human happiness, human capital, and success in general.

Truly ... you are most wise ... Senpei-san!

In an ideal world that would be great. In a real job situation you have to be extraordinarily gifted in some aspect of the job to avoid being cut down for your deficiencies another aspect. Sadly, it is the weakest link that matters most. It seems like the government isn't motivated to have a "make-a-job" program for people with disabilities when it's cheaper and easier to just send them a check in the mail.

Correct. The key word is "was". I gave up on self-pity long ago, right about the same time that I resolved to make something of myself rather than rely solely upon the kindness of strangers.

Only the losers, Marshie ... only the losers ...

And you accuse us of acting immaturely....

You really think liberals just want to mooch off other people? I'll have you know that I qualify for food stamps, and do not take them. The government money that I have taken has consisted of $4500 in academic merit-based scholarships that I received for being one of the top 150 students in my state (it would have been $6000 but the Republicans cut funding for the program last year) and some subsidized student loans which I will be paying back, albeit at slightly below-market interest rates. I pay taxes on my modest income, and later, when I am earning more money, I will pay higher taxes without constantly bitching about it. Over the course of my lifetime, I will pay a lot more in taxes than I will receive in direct government services. You right-wingers need to stop projecting your own self-serving nature on to the left. Man up and fulfill your obligations to your country. Take responsibility for yourself and be a contributing member of society- and this includes helping to support the institutions that keep our society intact.

This conservative myth about how they are the real, hard-working, self-reliant Americans is utter BS. I know plenty of conservatives who are happy with government handouts to themselves- in fact, at least one of them is currently a front-runner for the Republican nomination for President. Heavily conservative regions also tend to be the areas that are the largest recipients of government aid.

So you finally admitted you are a liberal.


Anyways, if you are referring to Mitt Romney, the only way I'm voting for that clown is if he's the nominee to run against Obama.