Is Rick Perry as Christian as He Thinks He Is?

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16 Aug 2011, 9:42 am

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One specifically insane act?

Hinting at secession from the Union.


How can you be a Texas politician and NOT hark back to the proud days of Texan independence? Allee same like Quebec separatism.

Anyhow, why is that insane? Maybe stupid if NOT just a traditional flourish.



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16 Aug 2011, 10:38 am

Perry is a lunatic. He thinks God talks to him.

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16 Aug 2011, 10:53 am

Here are Rick Perry and friends

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jetla5RBAHA[/youtube]



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16 Aug 2011, 11:01 am

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Perry is a lunatic. He thinks God talks to him.

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Nothing insane about that. God speaks to all of us.

It becomes insane if he listens to nonexistent voices thinking they are God.

It becomes dangerous if he listens to other voices thinking them to be God.

It becomes stupid if he hears God and ignores the message.

It is sad but typical if he fails to hear God.



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16 Aug 2011, 11:03 am

Glenn Beck has a low opinion of Mr. Perry

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3MnL8k7kdI&feature=related[/youtube]

Consequently, look for Inuyasha to be bashing Rick Perry.



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16 Aug 2011, 11:06 am

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Here are Rick Perry and friends



That would be such a hep if I could watch such things and saw any point in listening to Left or Right dissing the other side.

Personally, the sooner we get the politicians out of office and lock up the political rabble rousers the happier I will be. Mutual assured destruction per hot air.



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17 Aug 2011, 9:16 pm

Orwell wrote:
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One specifically insane act?

Hinting at secession from the Union.


That's a good idea. Rick Perry should seceed from the union.


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17 Aug 2011, 9:36 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
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One specifically insane act?

Hinting at secession from the Union.


That's a good idea. Rick Perry should seceed from the union.


I don't care if Texas secedes as long as they take Oklahoma with them.



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18 Aug 2011, 1:09 am

Back to the original topic -
Perry had of course had his prayer meeting at - what was it? - the super dome? - in which he packed in a bunch of evangelicals for an old fashion revival! Needless to say, as this was a purely evangelical type thingee, he didn't seem to be bothered that not only would non-Christians be offended by the state governor establishing and taking part in sectarian worship, it clearly wasn't geared for non-evangelical, Mainline Protestant or Catholic consumption, either.
And then there's the people who had convinced him to do such a thing, and who were the primary speakers. They belonged to what's called the New Apostolic Reformation; a group that believes they must take over the family, business, entertainment, and government in order usher in the rapture. If you think that's insane, wait for it..., wait for it..., their ministers and on-the-air personalities have claimed among other things that the Statue Of Liberty is a pagan idol sent to America by French Freemasons, that Japan is in a financial slump because the emperor had had sex with a sun demon, and that non-Christians should not be allowed to hold office in America. That's only the start! They had approached Perry with the good news that he, and Texas would play an important role in the end times.
Sure, Rick Perry has the absolute right to believe anything he wants; but if we're going to be critical of the lunatic fringe in Islamic countries taking political power, I think we need to be just as critical of crazy people like Perry and his brand of evangelicalism attempting to alter the political landscape here.

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18 Aug 2011, 5:51 am

no one is as christian as they "claim" to be, we all have our secrets and our skeletons.


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18 Aug 2011, 9:01 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Back to the original topic -
Perry had of course had his prayer meeting at - what was it? - the super dome? - in which he packed in a bunch of evangelicals for an old fashion revival! Needless to say, as this was a purely evangelical type thingee, he didn't seem to be bothered that not only would non-Christians be offended by the state governor establishing and taking part in sectarian worship, it clearly wasn't geared for non-evangelical, Mainline Protestant or Catholic consumption, either.
And then there's the people who had convinced him to do such a thing, and who were the primary speakers. They belonged to what's called the New Apostolic Reformation; a group that believes they must take over the family, business, entertainment, and government in order usher in the rapture. If you think that's insane, wait for it..., wait for it..., their ministers and on-the-air personalities have claimed among other things that the Statue Of Liberty is a pagan idol sent to America by French Freemasons, that Japan is in a financial slump because the emperor had had sex with a sun demon, and that non-Christians should not be allowed to hold office in America. That's only the start! They had approached Perry with the good news that he, and Texas would play an important role in the end times.
Sure, Rick Perry has the absolute right to believe anything he wants; but if we're going to be critical of the lunatic fringe in Islamic countries taking political power, I think we need to be just as critical of crazy people like Perry and his brand of evangelicalism attempting to alter the political landscape here.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yikes! There's a fine line between believer and batsh*t and I think Perry's crossed the line.

On a somewhat related note, the Pope just issued a statement demanding greater ethics in economic policy.

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"The economy doesn't function with market self-regulation but needs an ethical reason to work for mankind," he told reporters traveling aboard the papal plane. "Man must be at the center of the economy, and the economy cannot be measured only by maximization of profit but rather according to the common good."

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/n ... y.html?c=r

That's not to say I'm a big fan of the Pope, or even religion per se, but I think it's glaringly obvious that profit motivations are often at odds with ethical ones. The current balance strongly favors profit and this has caused a lot of human suffering.



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18 Aug 2011, 10:13 am

After praying for rain to overcome an historic drought in Texas, Rick Perry now says of global warming:

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I think there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects.


Yet Rick Perry has accepted $11 million from the oil & gas industry. Someone is on the take, at least he got that part right.



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18 Aug 2011, 4:32 pm

simon_says wrote:
After praying for rain to overcome an historic drought in Texas, Rick Perry now says of global warming:

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I think there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects.


Yet Rick Perry has accepted $11 million from the oil & gas industry. Someone is on the take, at least he got that part right.


That alone says volumes of how much he considers science to be false, as he obviously doesn't trust the work of scientists.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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18 Aug 2011, 4:40 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
Back to the original topic -
Perry had of course had his prayer meeting at - what was it? - the super dome? - in which he packed in a bunch of evangelicals for an old fashion revival! Needless to say, as this was a purely evangelical type thingee, he didn't seem to be bothered that not only would non-Christians be offended by the state governor establishing and taking part in sectarian worship, it clearly wasn't geared for non-evangelical, Mainline Protestant or Catholic consumption, either.
And then there's the people who had convinced him to do such a thing, and who were the primary speakers. They belonged to what's called the New Apostolic Reformation; a group that believes they must take over the family, business, entertainment, and government in order usher in the rapture. If you think that's insane, wait for it..., wait for it..., their ministers and on-the-air personalities have claimed among other things that the Statue Of Liberty is a pagan idol sent to America by French Freemasons, that Japan is in a financial slump because the emperor had had sex with a sun demon, and that non-Christians should not be allowed to hold office in America. That's only the start! They had approached Perry with the good news that he, and Texas would play an important role in the end times.
Sure, Rick Perry has the absolute right to believe anything he wants; but if we're going to be critical of the lunatic fringe in Islamic countries taking political power, I think we need to be just as critical of crazy people like Perry and his brand of evangelicalism attempting to alter the political landscape here.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yikes! There's a fine line between believer and batsh*t and I think Perry's crossed the line.

On a somewhat related note, the Pope just issued a statement demanding greater ethics in economic policy.

Quote:
"The economy doesn't function with market self-regulation but needs an ethical reason to work for mankind," he told reporters traveling aboard the papal plane. "Man must be at the center of the economy, and the economy cannot be measured only by maximization of profit but rather according to the common good."

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/n ... y.html?c=r

That's not to say I'm a big fan of the Pope, or even religion per se, but I think it's glaringly obvious that profit motivations are often at odds with ethical ones. The current balance strongly favors profit and this has caused a lot of human suffering.


I think we both gotta give it to the Pope on this one.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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18 Aug 2011, 8:14 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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After praying for rain to overcome an historic drought in Texas, Rick Perry now says of global warming:

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I think there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects.


Yet Rick Perry has accepted $11 million from the oil & gas industry. Someone is on the take, at least he got that part right.


That alone says volumes of how much he considers science to be false, as he obviously doesn't trust the work of scientists.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



Of course. And today Rick Perry had these great comments about evolution.

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"How old do I think the Earth is?" Perry said repeating the boy's question. "I have no idea - it's pretty old. It goes back a long way - I'm not sure anyone knows really completely know how old it is


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“Your mom is asking about evolution. You know, that’s a theory that’s out there; it’s got some gaps in it. In Texas, we teach both creationism and evolution in our public schools — because I figure you’re smart enough to figure out which one is right.”


He previously put a young earth creationist in as chairman of the Texas board of education. This guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_McLeroy



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18 Aug 2011, 8:43 pm

pandabear wrote:
Consequently, look for Inuyasha to be bashing Rick Perry.

I take it you'll be voting for him, then?