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14 Sep 2011, 3:35 pm

Right - just plutonium, uranium, and all kinds of glorious radiation.

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14 Sep 2011, 3:45 pm

The model rocket doesn't have to use real atomic bombs. As long as the rocket is powered by real explosions using dynamite or C-4 people will get the idea. And it will be scary as hell which is what heavy metal fans like.

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14 Sep 2011, 3:50 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Lxx2VAYi8

Anyway here is the video'

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14 Sep 2011, 3:53 pm

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The dynamite that simulates the atomic explosions will be in cardboard containers so there will be no danger of shrapnel hitting the crowd.

Ah, missed that!

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14 Sep 2011, 4:02 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

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Black hole power is also practical.

Lol, we could together exploit a dimension of pure evil....pure chaos... :twisted:

Just so long as the darkness inside from the other abyss doesn't get us first :lol:

I didn't even notice that and robot said that until now. LOL.

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14 Sep 2011, 4:05 pm

androbot2084 wrote:

The model rocket doesn't have to use real atomic bombs. As long as the rocket is powered by real explosions using dynamite or C-4 people will get the idea. And it will be scary as hell which is what heavy metal fans like.

Heck, why not go with your previous idea as noticed by Techstepgener8tion and really give 'em Hell, eh?

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14 Sep 2011, 4:24 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Lxx2VAYi8

Again here is the video . If that is not exciting enough we can man the rocket with a stuntman rather than use real atomic bombs.

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14 Sep 2011, 4:58 pm

androbot2084 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Lxx2VAYi8

Again here is the video . If that is not exciting enough we can man the rocket with a stuntman rather than use real atomic bombs.

Yes, there was a real project that was going to use atomic devices and that is a proof of concept video there. However, it would still be better to not have to have a ground launch. If you use cannons like Gerard Bull was wanting to build (although he should have never gone to Iraq for financing since they would have used his cannon for launching weapons rather than for cargo/material transport into orbit) or electromagnetic catapults such as those talked about in The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress then you can ship supplies and building materials into orbit for assembly and usage there, sending the payload up and not needing to have a non-reusable rocket. You want to have a NPP ship, build it in orbit where you can build it as massive as you like and the potential energy of it being in orbit already allows for it to use its fuel to travel faster than if launched from the ground of our massive solid planet with thick atmosphere comparatively speaking.

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14 Sep 2011, 5:17 pm

Helium 3 atomic bombs would eliminate the radiation.

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14 Sep 2011, 5:18 pm

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Helium 3 atomic bombs would eliminate the radiation.

Prove it.

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14 Sep 2011, 5:19 pm

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Helium 3 atomic bombs would eliminate the radiation.

You are an ignoramus. Hydrogen of any atomic weight does not fission. Atomic bombs for nuclear fission devices. Helium 3 could fuse if one could raise the temperature high enough but no technology tried as succeeded in doing that. As a result controlled nuclear fusion is the energy source of the future which it will still be a hundred years from now.

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14 Sep 2011, 5:20 pm

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1000Knives wrote:

There's a rather famous story of NASA spending like a million dollars or more to develop a pen to write in space. The Russians just used pencils...

graphite flakes and powder floating around in zero g could do a number on the electronics.

A graphite pencil in zero g is a bad idea.

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Nobody said anything about graphite pencils. I was thinking grease pencils myself, but here's an interesting read on the subject: snopes-space pencils

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14 Sep 2011, 5:22 pm

Since a helium 3 bomb produces only ten percent of the yield of a hydrogen bomb no military research has ever been done to try and build such a device.

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14 Sep 2011, 5:25 pm

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Since a helium 3 bomb produces only ten percent of the yield of a hydrogen bomb no military research has ever been done to try and build such a device.

You continually miss the point. To produce fusion one must raise and maintain the temperature in excess of one hundred million degrees Kelvin. We simply do not have the technology to produces a sustained fusion reaction. It takes much more energy to produce brief fusions than the energy that comes out of the reaction. It is a loser.

The only nuclear reactions that can produce sustained energy which we have at hand are -fission- reactions. That requires heavy elements. Helium 3 is light.

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14 Sep 2011, 5:26 pm

Anyway a theoretical Helium 3 bomb would use a Uranium bomb to light up the hydrogen bomb which would light up the helium 3 bomb. Such a device would certainly reduce the amount of radiation produced.

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14 Sep 2011, 5:28 pm

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Not with a uranium bomb as the trigger. Lots of radiation from that.

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