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03 Nov 2011, 4:03 pm

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Even if India had no Muslims all the more reason to dispose of the Nukes because a nuclear war between India and Pakistan would be disastrous.


So should America get rid of nukes? Also India and Pakistan don't have much of a reason to go to war with each other.


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03 Nov 2011, 4:07 pm

If the middle east becomes a nuclear free zone the United States and Russia might respond with an interstellar mission in order to get rid of the worlds entire arsenal of nukes.



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03 Nov 2011, 4:17 pm

Russia will never get rid of their nukes neither will America :lol:


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03 Nov 2011, 4:18 pm

Anyway with the exception of Queen Esther all of this is a Carl Sagan idea.



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03 Nov 2011, 4:21 pm

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They left out a number of influential from that list. What about Joan of Arc? I guess, I wouldn't say that she among the most powerful but she was one of the most influential.


I know Joan of Arc should have been on the list.


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03 Nov 2011, 4:23 pm

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Joan of Arc is not exactly a woman of peace.


Not all of the women on that list were pacifists either. I didn't know that was a requirement.



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03 Nov 2011, 4:28 pm

If those Islamic terrorists are willing to give up their nukes



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03 Nov 2011, 4:33 pm

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Joan of Arc is not exactly a woman of peace.


Not all of the women on that list were pacifists either. I didn't know that was a requirement.


None of them were pacifists being a pacifist will get you killed :lol:


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03 Nov 2011, 4:53 pm

From your profile, femme:

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Feminism Women's Rights Girl Power Gender Equality Feminist Theory Politics

Remember the old Sesame Street song? "One of these thing is not like the other..."

You're only pushing one side -- a side that already has equal rights with the other. (Not to state the obvious conclusion, but that unbalances things.)

There was a relevant historical period for women's rights in this country. And in many countries in the Arab Middle East and elsewhere, there still is today. That's where you need to be fighting. Women get raped, and by law cannot be believed unless four male witnesses to the rape come forward on her behalf. Women cannot drive or vote. Women cannot do anything their husband decides not to let them. That's where your battle is needed. Try explaining American situations of supposed gender inequality to a Saudi Arabian woman. See if you can explain to her that, even though women in America vote, drive, run for president, work in Congress, become CEOs, and even have abortions -- try explaining to her that, with all those things and more, women's rights are still seriously curtailed in our country. I don't think she'll be able to understand. Women aren't held back from anything except by various ways people choose to view them -- something which men also endure, and something which cannot be legislated.



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03 Nov 2011, 5:11 pm

I all ready know how women are treated in the middel east also women in america do not get payed as much as the men do even though their doing the same job and some times they do it better but still get payed less.

Also I have lived in Israel for a good seven years so I have done work over their as well as in America.


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03 Nov 2011, 11:19 pm

What happened to Mrs. Thatcher?

Good news. She's alive and well.
Well, sort of.
Here she is in "The Hunt for Tony Blair". A one-off TV comedy satire from the UK.
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04 Nov 2011, 1:26 am

Ragtime, don't be a troll. This thread isn't about how good or how bad modern western women's lives are; it's about powerful, individual women in history.



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04 Nov 2011, 3:07 pm

I don't think Queen Victoria should be number 1. Elizabeth the 1st held more power than she did because by the time Victoria became queen we had parliament to make all the decisions. Margarat Thatcher had more power than Victoria



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04 Nov 2011, 5:08 pm

LKL wrote:
Ragtime, don't be a troll. This thread isn't about how good or how bad modern western women's lives are; it's about powerful, individual women in history.


Thank you LKL your right it is about powerful, individual women in history that the education system doesn't teach you about in school.


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04 Nov 2011, 7:37 pm

So these diplomats that broker peace deals are just a bunch of pacifists that are going to get us all killed?



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05 Nov 2011, 7:27 pm

No they where strong women in history that are not taught about in public schools.


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