What's your opinion on extraterrestrial life?
Intelligence will not be explained by or in terms of quarks. Itty bitty particles are not even conscious let alone intelligent.
ruveyn
There is not an iota of empirical evidence for life anywhere else but on our planet.
Even so, I have a feeling "in my bones" (so to speak) that life exists elsewhere be it intelligent or not. Why. Because organic molecules formed very early on and organic molecules just love to form complex compounds. Given enough tries, I think one is bound to make a replicating compound. That is the first condition of life --- replication. I am not so certain that intelligent life is wide spread. It took nearly 3.5 billion years on our planet before anything with a glimmer of consciousness or intelligence evolved.
ruveyn
I think God created the universe and created humanity, it is entirely reasonable God also created life on other worlds.
It is also plausible that we've been visited in ancient times, and that said aliens decided this planet wasn't worth their time.
I don't think we will have serious contact with alien life until we are pretty much impossible to ignore because we're able to travel outside our solar system.
I think aliens have never been to our solar system. If they had, I'm pretty sure they would have turned it into a matrioshka brain.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
If they showed up here a half billion years ago, they would have been correct.
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It is also plausible that we've been visited in ancient times, and that said aliens decided this planet wasn't worth their time.
I don't think we will have serious contact with alien life until we are pretty much impossible to ignore because we're able to travel outside our solar system.
Well said.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
It is also plausible that we've been visited in ancient times, and that said aliens decided this planet wasn't worth their time.
I don't think we will have serious contact with alien life until we are pretty much impossible to ignore because we're able to travel outside our solar system.
Assuming the cosmos was created and didn't always exist in some form or another.
ruveyn
Humanity wasn't the first and it won't be the last intelligent civilization to exist, there are billions of billions of planetary systems and civilizations in creation. We have been visited my numerous other intelligent species, proof of which is being withheld by certain major world governments, the reason being that WE as a violent and xenophobic species can't handle the truth and the governments fear a severe social disruption (rightly so). Humanity is very immature, so immature we can't even handle being told that there are other intelligent creatures outside our own species, we can't even accept our own racial differences, how are we going to accept a creature that is entirely different than us?
This fundamental truth has been rightly with-held, though there is a growing number of people out there that have conditioned themselves to accept the reality of other intelligent species and have grown frustrated with the secrecy. I believe there should be more public conditioning before a formal acknowledgement is made by any government. Believe me, there is no shortage evidence.
The reality of other intelligent species in the future will be as widespread an accepted truth as it is that the Earth is round and orbits a star, which we know at one time was seen as a ridiculous and unbelievable concept.
This fundamental truth has been rightly with-held, though there is a growing number of people out there that have conditioned themselves to accept the reality of other intelligent species and have grown frustrated with the secrecy. I believe there should be more public conditioning before a formal acknowledgement is made by any government. Believe me, there is no shortage evidence.
The reality of other intelligent species in the future will be as widespread an accepted truth as it is that the Earth is round and orbits a star, which we know at one time was seen as a ridiculous and unbelievable concept.
Stephen Hawking claimed that its mathematically impossible for us to be the only intelligent species in the Universe with how large it is, while also claiming that if we had been visited that it would go a little like how it did when Columbus visited America and it didnt work out to well for the natives. personally i dont believe we have been visited recently but the Ancient Astronaut theory seems more likely "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clark's 3rd Law to me it means that its highly possible that aliens visited ancient societies and were worshipped as Gods for their technology because a lot of the "miracles" that were performed back then are commonplace nowadays
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Evidence, Please?
Evidence, Please?
Evidence, Please?
Evidence, Please? If the alleged proof is being withheld, then how can a mere citizen even know that such "proof" exists? Maybe that's is exactly what the government wants you to believe.
Evidence, Please?
Evidence, Please? We all know about Christian fundamentalists and their hatred of Science and its emphasis on critical thinking and reliance on demonstrable facts, but what about the rest of the world?
Evidence, Please? Again, if it's being withheld, then you wouldn't know about it.
Evidence, Please? Your claim again begs the question of whether or not any empirical evidence exists that would support any claim of terrestrial visits by extraterrestrials.
Belief proves nothing. Therefor, your demand for belief is irrelevant. If the evidence exists, then produce it, or produce evidence that proves that the original evidence is being withheld.
Evidence, Please? This "reality" of which you speak has not been clearly demonstrated.
Now, a little lesson on evidence...
EVIDENCE (n): The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
Without evidence, a belief can not be indicated to be valid.
Any claim that a belief is valid or true must be accompanied by supporting evidence; otherwise, the belief makes a subtle shift into the realm of "faith".
FAITH (n): Complete trust or confidence in someone or something that is based on spiritual apprehension rather than empirical evidence.
Thus, a claim for the existence of extraterrestrial intelligences having visited Earth is faith-based, simply because no evidence has been presented to support the claim. This is called "Citing Non-Existent Sources" - a favorite of conspiracy theorists. Another favorite is to say "Prove that the evidence doesn't exist" as if this alone was proof enough to support the original claim. Sorry, kid, but the absence of evidence, while not evidence of absence, is sufficient cause for reasonable doubt. Without your allegedly withheld evidence, there is sufficient reason to doubt your claims. Unless you can produce empirical evidence - evidence that can be demonstrated to be true without the use of convoluted rhetoric, "Straw Man" fallacies, or nonsensical word salads - your claims are in doubt, and your authority to assert those claims becomes practically non-existent.
Evidence, Please?
Evidence, Please?
Evidence, Please?
Evidence, Please? If the alleged proof is being withheld, then how can a mere citizen even know that such "proof" exists? Maybe that's is exactly what the government wants you to believe.
Evidence, Please?
Evidence, Please? We all know about Christian fundamentalists and their hatred of Science and its emphasis on critical thinking and reliance on demonstrable facts, but what about the rest of the world?
Evidence, Please? Again, if it's being withheld, then you wouldn't know about it.
Evidence, Please? Your claim again begs the question of whether or not any empirical evidence exists that would support any claim of terrestrial visits by extraterrestrials.
Belief proves nothing. Therefor, your demand for belief is irrelevant. If the evidence exists, then produce it, or produce evidence that proves that the original evidence is being withheld.
Evidence, Please? This "reality" of which you speak has not been clearly demonstrated.
Now, a little lesson on evidence...
EVIDENCE (n): The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
Without evidence, a belief can not be indicated to be valid.
Any claim that a belief is valid or true must be accompanied by supporting evidence; otherwise, the belief makes a subtle shift into the realm of "faith".
FAITH (n): Complete trust or confidence in someone or something that is based on spiritual apprehension rather than empirical evidence.
Thus, a claim for the existence of extraterrestrial intelligences having visited Earth is faith-based, simply because no evidence has been presented to support the claim. This is called "Citing Non-Existent Sources" - a favorite of conspiracy theorists. Another favorite is to say "Prove that the evidence doesn't exist" as if this alone was proof enough to support the original claim. Sorry, kid, but the absence of evidence, while not evidence of absence, is sufficient cause for reasonable doubt. Without your allegedly withheld evidence, there is sufficient reason to doubt your claims. Unless you can produce empirical evidence - evidence that can be demonstrated to be true without the use of convoluted rhetoric, "Straw Man" fallacies, or nonsensical word salads - your claims are in doubt, and your authority to assert those claims becomes practically non-existent.
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