What's your opinion on extraterrestrial life?

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What do you think of extraterrestrial life?
I think we are alone in the Universe and god made Humans the Pinnacle of Creation 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
I think we are alone in the Universe because life is extremely improbable and Earth is the only place with it 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
I think it is possible the Universe has other life, but it's never visited Earth 46%  46%  [ 29 ]
I think the Universe almost certainly has other life, and it's possible we've been visited 40%  40%  [ 25 ]
I feel certain we have been visited 11%  11%  [ 7 ]
Total votes : 63

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03 Dec 2011, 5:58 am

I believe there is something, what it is I don't know, aliens?, alternate dimensional beings? the goverment(s)? I like this video on UFO's some good footage;

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjGYSGbAEUM[/youtube]



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03 Dec 2011, 7:33 am

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Read this. It'll blow your mind. 8)


Intelligence will not be explained by or in terms of quarks. Itty bitty particles are not even conscious let alone intelligent.

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03 Dec 2011, 7:37 am

There is not an iota of empirical evidence for life anywhere else but on our planet.

Even so, I have a feeling "in my bones" (so to speak) that life exists elsewhere be it intelligent or not. Why. Because organic molecules formed very early on and organic molecules just love to form complex compounds. Given enough tries, I think one is bound to make a replicating compound. That is the first condition of life --- replication. I am not so certain that intelligent life is wide spread. It took nearly 3.5 billion years on our planet before anything with a glimmer of consciousness or intelligence evolved.

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04 Dec 2011, 1:06 am

I think God created the universe and created humanity, it is entirely reasonable God also created life on other worlds.

It is also plausible that we've been visited in ancient times, and that said aliens decided this planet wasn't worth their time.

I don't think we will have serious contact with alien life until we are pretty much impossible to ignore because we're able to travel outside our solar system.



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04 Dec 2011, 1:37 am

I think aliens have never been to our solar system. If they had, I'm pretty sure they would have turned it into a matrioshka brain.



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04 Dec 2011, 10:12 am

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Maybe there is intelligent life in the universe. Maybe they had come here sometime or other. But if they did, they probably left, thinking: "There's no intelligent life here on this rock." :lol:

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


If they showed up here a half billion years ago, they would have been correct.

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04 Dec 2011, 12:49 pm

I don't think aliens have visited Earth because of the huge distances. And if they did I reckon it would be to anhilate us like on V.

But I do believe they exist in the universe and that some may even be intelligent enough to fly around in space ships.



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04 Dec 2011, 7:08 pm

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I think God created the universe and created humanity, it is entirely reasonable God also created life on other worlds.

It is also plausible that we've been visited in ancient times, and that said aliens decided this planet wasn't worth their time.

I don't think we will have serious contact with alien life until we are pretty much impossible to ignore because we're able to travel outside our solar system.


Well said. 8)

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04 Dec 2011, 8:36 pm

I don't know how intelligent the aliens are. I mean how many cows do they have to dissect to figure out how it works. Mankind figured cows hundreds of years ago. Why don't they just go to a library and get a book. They seem awfully dumb.



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09 Dec 2011, 10:41 am

My view is that there is probably other l don’t know when we will find it and I find it likely we will discover little green slime before little green men I see no evidence that I trust we have been visited yet….



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09 Dec 2011, 3:00 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
I think God created the universe and created humanity, it is entirely reasonable God also created life on other worlds.

It is also plausible that we've been visited in ancient times, and that said aliens decided this planet wasn't worth their time.

I don't think we will have serious contact with alien life until we are pretty much impossible to ignore because we're able to travel outside our solar system.


Assuming the cosmos was created and didn't always exist in some form or another.

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09 Dec 2011, 3:20 pm

Humanity wasn't the first and it won't be the last intelligent civilization to exist, there are billions of billions of planetary systems and civilizations in creation. We have been visited my numerous other intelligent species, proof of which is being withheld by certain major world governments, the reason being that WE as a violent and xenophobic species can't handle the truth and the governments fear a severe social disruption (rightly so). Humanity is very immature, so immature we can't even handle being told that there are other intelligent creatures outside our own species, we can't even accept our own racial differences, how are we going to accept a creature that is entirely different than us?

This fundamental truth has been rightly with-held, though there is a growing number of people out there that have conditioned themselves to accept the reality of other intelligent species and have grown frustrated with the secrecy. I believe there should be more public conditioning before a formal acknowledgement is made by any government. Believe me, there is no shortage evidence.

The reality of other intelligent species in the future will be as widespread an accepted truth as it is that the Earth is round and orbits a star, which we know at one time was seen as a ridiculous and unbelievable concept.



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09 Dec 2011, 3:27 pm

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Humanity wasn't the first and it won't be the last intelligent civilization to exist, there are billions of billions of planetary systems and civilizations in creation. We have been visited my numerous other intelligent species, proof of which is being withheld by certain major world governments, the reason being that WE as a violent and xenophobic species can't handle the truth and the governments fear a severe social disruption (rightly so). Humanity is very immature, so immature we can't even handle being told that there are other intelligent creatures outside our own species, we can't even accept our own racial differences, how are we going to accept a creature that is entirely different than us?

This fundamental truth has been rightly with-held, though there is a growing number of people out there that have conditioned themselves to accept the reality of other intelligent species and have grown frustrated with the secrecy. I believe there should be more public conditioning before a formal acknowledgement is made by any government. Believe me, there is no shortage evidence.

The reality of other intelligent species in the future will be as widespread an accepted truth as it is that the Earth is round and orbits a star, which we know at one time was seen as a ridiculous and unbelievable concept.


Stephen Hawking claimed that its mathematically impossible for us to be the only intelligent species in the Universe with how large it is, while also claiming that if we had been visited that it would go a little like how it did when Columbus visited America and it didnt work out to well for the natives. personally i dont believe we have been visited recently but the Ancient Astronaut theory seems more likely "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clark's 3rd Law to me it means that its highly possible that aliens visited ancient societies and were worshipped as Gods for their technology because a lot of the "miracles" that were performed back then are commonplace nowadays


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09 Dec 2011, 3:28 pm

I think extra terrestrial life is Out of This World.

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09 Dec 2011, 3:49 pm

NextFact wrote:
Humanity wasn't the first and it won't be the last intelligent civilization to exist...

Evidence, Please?

NextFact wrote:
... there are billions of billions of planetary systems and civilizations in creation.

Evidence, Please?

NextFact wrote:
We have been visited my numerous other intelligent species...

Evidence, Please?

NextFact wrote:
... proof of which is being withheld by certain major world governments...

Evidence, Please? If the alleged proof is being withheld, then how can a mere citizen even know that such "proof" exists? Maybe that's is exactly what the government wants you to believe.

NextFact wrote:
... the reason being that WE as a violent and xenophobic species can't handle the truth and the governments fear a severe social disruption (rightly so).

Evidence, Please?

NextFact wrote:
Humanity is very immature, so immature we can't even handle being told that there are other intelligent creatures outside our own species...

Evidence, Please? We all know about Christian fundamentalists and their hatred of Science and its emphasis on critical thinking and reliance on demonstrable facts, but what about the rest of the world?

NextFact wrote:
This fundamental truth has been rightly with-held...

Evidence, Please? Again, if it's being withheld, then you wouldn't know about it.

NextFact wrote:
... though there is a growing number of people out there that have conditioned themselves to accept the reality of other intelligent species and have grown frustrated with the secrecy.

Evidence, Please? Your claim again begs the question of whether or not any empirical evidence exists that would support any claim of terrestrial visits by extraterrestrials.

NextFact wrote:
I believe there should be more public conditioning before a formal acknowledgement is made by any government. Believe me, there is no shortage evidence.

Belief proves nothing. Therefor, your demand for belief is irrelevant. If the evidence exists, then produce it, or produce evidence that proves that the original evidence is being withheld.

NextFact wrote:
The reality of other intelligent species in the future will be as widespread an accepted truth as it is that the Earth is round and orbits a star, which we know at one time was seen as a ridiculous and unbelievable concept.

Evidence, Please? This "reality" of which you speak has not been clearly demonstrated.

Now, a little lesson on evidence...

EVIDENCE (n): The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.

Without evidence, a belief can not be indicated to be valid.

Any claim that a belief is valid or true must be accompanied by supporting evidence; otherwise, the belief makes a subtle shift into the realm of "faith".

FAITH (n): Complete trust or confidence in someone or something that is based on spiritual apprehension rather than empirical evidence.

Thus, a claim for the existence of extraterrestrial intelligences having visited Earth is faith-based, simply because no evidence has been presented to support the claim. This is called "Citing Non-Existent Sources" - a favorite of conspiracy theorists. Another favorite is to say "Prove that the evidence doesn't exist" as if this alone was proof enough to support the original claim. Sorry, kid, but the absence of evidence, while not evidence of absence, is sufficient cause for reasonable doubt. Without your allegedly withheld evidence, there is sufficient reason to doubt your claims. Unless you can produce empirical evidence - evidence that can be demonstrated to be true without the use of convoluted rhetoric, "Straw Man" fallacies, or nonsensical word salads - your claims are in doubt, and your authority to assert those claims becomes practically non-existent.



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09 Dec 2011, 3:55 pm

Fnord wrote:
NextFact wrote:
Humanity wasn't the first and it won't be the last intelligent civilization to exist...

Evidence, Please?

NextFact wrote:
... there are billions of billions of planetary systems and civilizations in creation.

Evidence, Please?

NextFact wrote:
We have been visited my numerous other intelligent species...

Evidence, Please?

NextFact wrote:
... proof of which is being withheld by certain major world governments...

Evidence, Please? If the alleged proof is being withheld, then how can a mere citizen even know that such "proof" exists? Maybe that's is exactly what the government wants you to believe.

NextFact wrote:
... the reason being that WE as a violent and xenophobic species can't handle the truth and the governments fear a severe social disruption (rightly so).

Evidence, Please?

NextFact wrote:
Humanity is very immature, so immature we can't even handle being told that there are other intelligent creatures outside our own species...

Evidence, Please? We all know about Christian fundamentalists and their hatred of Science and its emphasis on critical thinking and reliance on demonstrable facts, but what about the rest of the world?

NextFact wrote:
This fundamental truth has been rightly with-held...

Evidence, Please? Again, if it's being withheld, then you wouldn't know about it.

NextFact wrote:
... though there is a growing number of people out there that have conditioned themselves to accept the reality of other intelligent species and have grown frustrated with the secrecy.

Evidence, Please? Your claim again begs the question of whether or not any empirical evidence exists that would support any claim of terrestrial visits by extraterrestrials.

NextFact wrote:
I believe there should be more public conditioning before a formal acknowledgement is made by any government. Believe me, there is no shortage evidence.

Belief proves nothing. Therefor, your demand for belief is irrelevant. If the evidence exists, then produce it, or produce evidence that proves that the original evidence is being withheld.

NextFact wrote:
The reality of other intelligent species in the future will be as widespread an accepted truth as it is that the Earth is round and orbits a star, which we know at one time was seen as a ridiculous and unbelievable concept.

Evidence, Please? This "reality" of which you speak has not been clearly demonstrated.

Now, a little lesson on evidence...

EVIDENCE (n): The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.

Without evidence, a belief can not be indicated to be valid.

Any claim that a belief is valid or true must be accompanied by supporting evidence; otherwise, the belief makes a subtle shift into the realm of "faith".

FAITH (n): Complete trust or confidence in someone or something that is based on spiritual apprehension rather than empirical evidence.

Thus, a claim for the existence of extraterrestrial intelligences having visited Earth is faith-based, simply because no evidence has been presented to support the claim. This is called "Citing Non-Existent Sources" - a favorite of conspiracy theorists. Another favorite is to say "Prove that the evidence doesn't exist" as if this alone was proof enough to support the original claim. Sorry, kid, but the absence of evidence, while not evidence of absence, is sufficient cause for reasonable doubt. Without your allegedly withheld evidence, there is sufficient reason to doubt your claims. Unless you can produce empirical evidence - evidence that can be demonstrated to be true without the use of convoluted rhetoric, "Straw Man" fallacies, or nonsensical word salads - your claims are in doubt, and your authority to assert those claims becomes practically non-existent.


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