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Homosexuality is
an intrinsically positive thing (this implies: "as opposed to being straight") 25%  25%  [ 3 ]
something that is equal to being straight. (Um... please prove.) 58%  58%  [ 7 ]
a less-than-ideal state when compared with heterosexuality 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 12

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08 Dec 2011, 5:38 pm

I think the praising comes from the fact that they had the courage to come out about it in a society that frowns upon it. If I were to put myself in a hypothetical where I was gay and received a congratulations like I had won the lottery, I think that would be a very awkward situation.

There are many things that people hide from other people, being gay is one. Others could be being bullied, harassed, or molested and you'd think that would be inspirational for those people.



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08 Dec 2011, 5:41 pm

blauSamstag wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
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...the praising of openness... Repressing yourself is ugly thing and there is no logical reason to do that to yourself in this day and age.


What if you're a Christian? What if you want to put a "Merry Christmas" sign up, and a Nativity scene on private property but in public view? What if you want to pray in school? What if you think abortion is murder, and you want to talk women out of it in order to save lives?

Should you repress yourself then?


You can put whatever you want on private property as long as it meets community standards for inoffensiveness and does not violate any law (e.g. some states may restrict hate speech).

In other words, "No, you can't put up a Merry Christmas sign or a Nativity scene, because people will complain that they feel hated because of it."

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If you want to assault people on the street in order to talk them out of abortion you might have some legal trouble in your future.


Exactly. "Let the babies die, who cares." Well, at least you're honest, if circuitous.


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08 Dec 2011, 5:48 pm

Ragtime wrote:
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Oh yes, I knew that. I just wanted to see if this intellectually bankrupt excuse for a question would be shot down by the vacuous mess posing it or someone with more courage.
As it turns out, it was the latter. Pretty much as expected.


Allow me to ask a question in return. May I ask who made you a moderator? I've never known moderators on WP to consider it their business to go around calling members "vacuous mess"es because their opinions differ. Maybe you are simply not aware that there is still a worldwide debate on homosexuality; the matter hasn't been closed in its favor.


:!: PLEASE: step away from the keyboard and have a time out :!:

You are not debating here, you are "preaching to us", and I don't like that, especially given the topics you have chosen to concern yourself with.

This and your thread of obsessions as religion are basically sermons. People would be more respectful of your Christianity if you stopped trying to ram it down our throats, and if you adopted a more tolerant stance yourself.

As a fellow aspie you get some leniency for forgetting how your words may be interpreted by others, but I think you have had enough feedback by now to notice that your topic is offense to people (many people).



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08 Dec 2011, 5:53 pm

Why do you ask for explanations for non existent phenomena?

No one is praised for "just being gay" so there is no need to explain it.



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08 Dec 2011, 5:54 pm

Because it is dysfunctional. Anything deviant and backwards is celebrated by popular culture, while anything wholesome is mocked and derided. We've switched planets with Bizzaro World.



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08 Dec 2011, 5:55 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Maybe you are simply not aware that there is still a worldwide debate on homosexuality; the matter hasn't been closed in its favor.
Oh but darling, I can assure you it's much more than a difference of opinion because I am gay. I have first-hand experience.
You, on the other hand, have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. None whatever.
This whole "worldwide debate" crap is very similar to that trotted out by bigots with hidden agendas.

I'll fill in the words you so coyly omitted from your question and refused to provide when asked: "Why is every homosexual treated as a trailblazer to the future, a leader, a pioneer even, merely for sticking his penis into another man's rectum?"
This is so ridiculous on so many levels it simply shows your whole "knowledge" of homosexuality for what it is.
And now we're getting the "God will save you" crap.
Sweetie, let it go. It's making you look really, really stupid.


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08 Dec 2011, 6:04 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Maybe you are simply not aware that there is still a worldwide debate on homosexuality; the matter hasn't been closed in its favor.

:scratch: :huh: So I thought it's kinda over and it is closed in its favor and thus is "praised". Undeservingly, in your religiously influenced opinion.



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08 Dec 2011, 6:09 pm

Cornflake wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Maybe you are simply not aware that there is still a worldwide debate on homosexuality; the matter hasn't been closed in its favor.
Oh but darling, I can assure you it's much more than a difference of opinion because I am gay. I have first-hand experience.
You, on the other hand, have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. None whatever.
This whole "worldwide debate" crap is very similar to that trotted out by bigots with hidden agendas.

I'll fill in the words you so coyly omitted from your question and refused to provide when asked: "Why is every homosexual treated as a trailblazer to the future, a leader, a pioneer even, merely for sticking his penis into another man's rectum?"
This is so ridiculous on so many levels it simply shows your whole "knowledge" of homosexuality for what it is.
And now we're getting the "God will save you" crap.
Sweetie, let it go. It's making you look really, really stupid.


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08 Dec 2011, 6:22 pm

Ragtime,

You should be ashamed of yourself--not for your views on homosexuality which you are, of course, free to hold for whatever reasons you see fit.

Rather, you should be ashamed for insulting the intelligence of every other person on this forum by embarking on such a sham exercise. You have absolutely no interest in learning anything from anyone whose opinions are not congruent with yours. You pose questions not because you want to engage in a dialogue about the answer, but rather as the foundations for you to mount your bully pulpit. You cloak your bigotry and prejudice in the cloth of curiosity.

I have every respect for Christians who, in good faith, view homosexuality as sinful but adhere to Christ's dictum, "Judge not, lest ye be judged." When you have removed the plank from your own eye, I will be happy to discuss the mote in mine.

In the meanwhile, you are a liar and a scoundrel, bringing shame upon your faith.


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08 Dec 2011, 6:26 pm

homophobia is prohibited on WP. Ragtime, your thread was pretty much fine until you strongly implied that homosexuality is a negative biological state akin to mental retardation.


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