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31 Dec 2011, 12:23 am

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Q: Why did Barrack Obama hold a seance? A: To thank everyone that voted for him.

Mississippi NAACP leader sent to prison for 10 counts of voter fraud

While NAACP President Benjamin Jealous lashed out at new state laws requiring photo ID for voting, an NAACP executive sits in prison, sentenced for carrying out a massive voter fraud scheme.

In a story ignored by the national media, in April a Tunica County, Miss., jury convicted NAACP official Lessadolla Sowers on 10 counts of fraudulently casting absentee ballots. Sowers is identified on an NAACP website as a member of the Tunica County NAACP Executive Committee.

Sowers received a five-year prison term for each of the 10 counts, but Circuit Court Judge Charles Webster permitted Sowers to serve those terms concurrently, according to the Tunica Times, the only media outlet to cover the sentencing.

“This crime cuts against the fabric of our free society,” Judge Webster said.

Sowers was found guilty of voting in the names of Carrie Collins, Walter Howard, Sheena Shelton, Alberta Pickett, Draper Cotton and Eddie Davis. She was also convicted of voting in the names of four dead persons: James L. Young, Dora Price, Dorothy Harris, and David Ross.

In the trial, forensic scientist Bo Scales testified that Sowers’s DNA was found on the inner seals of five envelopes containing absentee ballots.

This wasn’t Sowers’s first run-in with the law. Sowers previously had her probation revoked for disturbing the peace at a junior high school library, the Commercial Appeal of Memphis reported in 1990. During a hearing at that time, Sowers played the race card. She claimed to be the victim of “an attempt by powerful whites to silence” her, the newspaper reported. It didn’t work. She was ordered back to prison to complete the remaining two years of a three-year sentence she received for check forgery.

The NAACP has had other problems with voter fraud. The NAACP National Voter Fund registered a dead man to vote in Lake County, Ohio, in 2004. That same year, out of 325 voter registration cards filed by the NAACP in Cleveland, 48 were flagged as fraudulent.

But the NAACP’s voter fraud record doesn’t approach that of ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. At least 54 individuals employed by or associated with ACORN have been convicted of voter fraud.

Voter fraud, sometimes called electoral fraud, is a blanket term used by lawyers that encompasses a host of election-related improprieties including fraudulent voting, voter registration fraud, perjury, forgery, counterfeiting, impersonation, intimidation, and identity fraud.

And ACORN, which filed for bankruptcy last November, was itself convicted of voter fraud in Nevada in April. Sentencing is scheduled for Aug. 10 in Las Vegas. ACORN was also banished from Ohio in 2010 when it settled a state racketeering filed against it by the 1851 Center for Constitutional Law, a project of the Buckeye Institute. Under the settlement ACORN, which is now reorganizing its state chapters under different names, agreed never to return to the state.

Election experts say voter fraud is fairly common, but progressive activists typically insist that the crime is virtually nonexistent. Republicans, they say, routinely exaggerate claims of voter fraud in order to whip their political base into a frenzy and push for voter ID laws. Liberals say such laws are unfair, and claim that they discourage minorities and the poor from voting.

The NAACP’s Jealous said Monday at the group’s 102nd annual convention in Los Angeles that photo ID laws are part of an attempt to disenfranchise minorities through some “of the last existing legal pillars of Jim Crow.” Such laws stem from “the worst and most racist elements” in conservative Tea Party groups, he said.

Stephen Colbert, the liberal comedian who portrays an overbearing conservative Republican on his cable TV show “The Colbert Report,” broadcast a segment this week ridiculing Republicans for treating voter fraud as a serious problem.

Some Democrats, however, aren’t laughing. The office of District Attorney Brenda F. Mitchell, a registered Democrat who serves Mississippi’s 11th Circuit Court District, successfully prosecuted Sowers. Mitchell was appointed to the post by Republican Gov. Haley Barbour in January 2010 after the previous DA resigned. She’s now seeking the Democratic nomination for the office in a primary election scheduled for Aug. 2.

Mitchell doesn’t appear to be a conservative. She served as a legal consultant to the far-left, New York-based public interest law firm the Center for Constitutional Rights. That firm represented ACORN in an ultimately unsuccessful lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of a federal law defunding the activist group. Mitchell didn’t return calls seeking comment for this article.

U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar, Minnesota Democrat, is also no conservative. But she won a conviction against Joshua Reed for voter registration fraud in 2004 when she was the Hennepin County, Minn. Prosecutor.

“It was very important for the public integrity of our electoral system that somebody, if they do something like this, gets charged, gets convicted and gets consequences,” Klobuchar said at the time.

Democrats, including Nevada Attorney General Catherine Cortez Masto, Pittsburgh District Attorney Stephen A. Zappala Jr., and Miami, Fla., State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle, have all vigorously prosecuted voter fraud cases.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/29/missi ... z1i5OTOSWr


So some crazy lady in Mississippi was guilty of voter fraud. Is there much more evidence for this crime beyond the individuals you cited?

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31 Dec 2011, 12:27 am

...Or how about the Boston cat called to Jury duty? You don't get summoned for bring listed on a census (the cat is unlikely 18 as well), using the cat for a driver's license or state ID would raise a lot of questions, so the only way the cat could get called for jury duty is if it was registered to vote.

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31 Dec 2011, 12:32 am

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... z1i5TbXiFH

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The GOP War on Voting
In a campaign supported by the Koch brothers, Republicans are working to prevent millions of Democrats from voting next year

As the nation gears up for the 2012 presidential election, Republican officials have launched an unprecedented, centrally coordinated campaign to suppress the elements of the Democratic vote that elected Barack Obama in 2008. Just as Dixiecrats once used poll taxes and literacy tests to bar black Southerners from voting, a new crop of GOP governors and state legislators has passed a series of seemingly disconnected measures that could prevent millions of students, minorities, immigrants, ex-convicts and the elderly from casting ballots. "What has happened this year is the most significant setback to voting rights in this country in a century," says Judith Browne-Dianis, who monitors barriers to voting as co-director of the Advancement Project, a civil rights organization based in Washington, D.C.

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31 Dec 2011, 12:43 am

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...Or how about the Boston cat called to Jury duty? You don't get summoned for bring listed on a census (the cat is unlikely 18 as well), using the cat for a driver's license or state ID would raise a lot of questions, so the only way the cat could get called for jury duty is if it was registered to vote.

[url]www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/boston/BO133130[/url]


Well, good for the friggin' cat. I hope it sent the defendant to the chair.

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31 Dec 2011, 3:08 am

Telekon wrote:
Abgal64 wrote:
Bataar wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
Bataar wrote:
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While attempts should be made to ensure that legal people can get photo ID, I definitely think one should need to show photo ID in order to vote.
Republicans: The party that keeps providing solutions for problems that didn't need solutions.

Meanwhile, crisis is as strong as ever.

With 15 - 20 million illegals in this country, it seems a pretty important measure to me.
They pay taxes, so why shouldn't they have a say in which electoral collegiate gets more voting power?

Because they're not citizens.
Anyone who obeys the laws of the state, provides for the state and otherwise contributes to the state deserves citizenship.


So you agree they don't belong here? They're "illegal" because they've broken federal immigration law.

Most illegals pay only sales taxes. They're supposed to contribute to payroll taxes but most work off the books which is the motivation for hiring them. What little they do earn is funneled back to Mexico.
True, they have broken laws but those laws could be made much easier to follow for immigrants while benefiting everyone.

The state also has an obligation to benefit its citizens. By keeping out those who are really the only significant group of people who will pick fruit in the hot sun or clean filling station restrooms for any significant length of time while excelling at such back-braking and dirty labor in a way that even blue-collar intercity and rural poor just will not do, the state is really only hurting itself.

Now how why would desperate and impoverished illegal immigrants worry at all about whether the agribusiness they work for pays payroll taxes? That is just ridiculous, especially when they do so much good for the USA and so little bad, being normally afraid to commit crime, and go to the police about any crime that has effected them, for fear of being deported.

So what if many Hispanics send much of their money back to their friends and family in their home countries? It is certainly higher and more noble to give money to others out of charity and desire for them to succeed than it is to spend money on an overpriced luxury that no one needs, which is what a very large amount of citizens of the USA do.


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31 Dec 2011, 3:10 am

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...Or how about the Boston cat called to Jury duty? You don't get summoned for bring listed on a census (the cat is unlikely 18 as well), using the cat for a driver's license or state ID would raise a lot of questions, so the only way the cat could get called for jury duty is if it was registered to vote.

[url]www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/boston/BO133130[/url]
Provide actual statistics from a reliable source about voter fraud in the USA that support your position or stop giving clearly extreme and sensationalized examples of voter fraud if you want me to agree with you.


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31 Dec 2011, 7:05 am

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No one can say that the Democrats' hearts weren't in the right places. On top of that, I think the notion that so many black people are dependent on the government and are shiftless is overblown.
Sort of like all Jews are supposedly greedy leaches. We both know that's not true.

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I am not laying a trip on black folk. The chief beneficiaries of the U.S. Welfare System have been large corporations. The welfare state that did so little to help the black urban poor get out of the hole also shoveled billion of middle class dollars into the coffers of corporations that neither delved nor spun. The true Welfare Queens or our system are corporations to which both Democrats and Republican gladly fed the substance of the middle class which labored to create the wealth.

By the way, thinking with one's heart is just plain stupid. We have brains for that. Feelings and sentiments are poor guides for policy.

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31 Dec 2011, 8:03 am

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No one can say that the Democrats' hearts weren't in the right places.


Sure they can, it goes like this; Democrats saw permanent ownership of the black vote as politically valuable and acted accordingly rather than out of any noble sentiment. I'm not saying that's how it actually went down, but I can't resist a "nobody can say" statement.


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31 Dec 2011, 12:34 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
No one can say that the Democrats' hearts weren't in the right places.


Sure they can, it goes like this; Democrats saw permanent ownership of the black vote as politically valuable and acted accordingly rather than out of any noble sentiment. I'm not saying that's how it actually went down, but I can't resist a "nobody can say" statement.


And I can just as easily say that that's just right wing propaganda.
And again, I question if the number of black Americans on public assistance is as high as people like the Gingrich who stole Christmas says they are.

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