'Gay' and 'ret*d'

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What do you think of saying 'gay' and 'ret*d' as slang?

I find it offensive to gay people and the mentally handicapped	37%	[ 26 ]
It doesn't offend me but I think it's stupid to say those words that way	18%	[ 13 ]
Makes you sound like you're stuck in the early 2000s and still enjoy Limp Bizkit	17%	[ 12 ]
I say the words that way out of habit but I still think it's wrong	8%	[ 6 ]
I say those words all the time in that context, who cares? Words change meanings.	20%	[ 14 ]

Total votes : 71

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17 Jan 2012, 7:48 pm

snapcap wrote:

JWC wrote:

snapcap wrote:

JWC wrote:

snapcap wrote:

JWC wrote:

naturalplastic wrote:

kinda like vegitarian got shorten to vegan

Vegetarians don't eat meat. Vegans don't consume any animal products. It isn't a case of truncation, they're actually two different things.

They use the shortened word vegan because not all vegans have the energy to say vegetarian.

Vegetarians consume dairy products, vegans do not. There is a difference.

What about vegans that eat vegetables growing in manure?

They spontaneously combust.

Is there evidence, or should we just accept it as so?

Do I have to choose, or could it be both?

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17 Jan 2012, 7:59 pm

Well we give words their meaning so I don't find it offense but I do think it shows a real lack intelligence and maturity.

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17 Jan 2012, 8:33 pm

JWC wrote:

snapcap wrote:

JWC wrote:

snapcap wrote:

JWC wrote:

snapcap wrote:

JWC wrote:

naturalplastic wrote:

kinda like vegitarian got shorten to vegan

Vegetarians don't eat meat. Vegans don't consume any animal products. It isn't a case of truncation, they're actually two different things.

They use the shortened word vegan because not all vegans have the energy to say vegetarian.

Vegetarians consume dairy products, vegans do not. There is a difference.

What about vegans that eat vegetables growing in manure?

They spontaneously combust.

Is there evidence, or should we just accept it as so?

Do I have to choose, or could it be both?

You could find the evidence, I enjoy reading odd news from time to time.

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17 Jan 2012, 8:39 pm

snapcap wrote:

JWC wrote:

snapcap wrote:

JWC wrote:

snapcap wrote:

JWC wrote:

snapcap wrote:

JWC wrote:

naturalplastic wrote:

kinda like vegitarian got shorten to vegan

Vegetarians don't eat meat. Vegans don't consume any animal products. It isn't a case of truncation, they're actually two different things.

They use the shortened word vegan because not all vegans have the energy to say vegetarian.

Vegetarians consume dairy products, vegans do not. There is a difference.

What about vegans that eat vegetables growing in manure?

They spontaneously combust.

Is there evidence, or should we just accept it as so?

Do I have to choose, or could it be both?

You could find the evidence, I enjoy reading odd news from time to time.

Some things just have to be taken on faith.

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18 Jan 2012, 12:06 am

personally i find it insensitive. it's only funny until it's you.

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18 Jan 2012, 1:09 am

I ret*d some fermentation tonight.

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18 Jan 2012, 1:40 am

blauSamstag wrote:

I ret*d some fermentation tonight.

Pizza dough? Bagels?

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18 Jan 2012, 2:17 am

I wonder how many people whop use those words even know what they mean?

To be gay is to be happy. To be ret*d is to be held back.

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18 Jan 2012, 7:12 am

I do find the word "gay" (whenever used as another word for "lame") offensive. I don't care if the person who used it didn't intend to use it as an insult, if you're going to use a word that defines somebody's identity as another word for something that's bad, I consider that an insult. That's why I don't say it.

I also prefer classier words over "ret*d." I just think the word used by itself is distasteful, but I have no problem with the term "mentally ret*d."

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18 Jan 2012, 8:34 am

donnie_darko wrote:

What do you think of using those words as slang? Personally it sounds more outdated to me than anything else. I mean it's 2012, not 2002, right?

I do miss the Gay Nineties.

Also, ninety is itself an unusual word: the "t" is pronounced as a "d".

Are we no longer supposed to use the term "Gay" to refer to a homosexual person?

Is "Gay" supposed to refer now only to a person who is happy, regardless of sexual orientation?

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18 Jan 2012, 8:46 am

If I know a word is offensive then it has power and I'll use it more.

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18 Jan 2012, 9:06 am

pandabear wrote:

Are we no longer supposed to use the term "Gay" to refer to a homosexual person?

Is "Gay" supposed to refer now only to a person who is happy, regardless of sexual orientation?

No, you're fine using it to refer to someone sexual orientation. The point of the poll is that a lot of people use "gay" to be mean "lame" or "crappy", so it's turned into a derogatory term, likewise with ret*d or ret*d. If you're using the word in the dictionary type sense, I'm sure that's fine (fire retardant, for example) but if you are with a friend who does something stupid and you say "Man, you're such a ret*d!" then that's out of order.

It's all in the context. Nothing wrong with the words themselves, just with the intent that they are used.

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18 Jan 2012, 9:30 am

Do you not realise that by finding offensive words intended to offend you're ensuring their continued use? If I get into a fight with a black person you can bet your life I'll call him a n****r.

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18 Jan 2012, 9:39 am

I think there is nothing wrong with saying Gay if you mean men who love other men
or to describe a pink speedo or a skin tight t-shirt.
but when you use it to describe the music of coldpay it is an offense to
Gay folks.

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18 Jan 2012, 8:44 pm

Kelspook wrote:

pandabear wrote:

Are we no longer supposed to use the term "Gay" to refer to a homosexual person?

Is "Gay" supposed to refer now only to a person who is happy, regardless of sexual orientation?

Thanks for the clarification. I seldom talk to people unless absolutely necessary. I wasn't aware of the new uses of "gay" and "ret*d."

So now, when you say "I feel gay", what you mean is "I feel crappy." That's rather "lame." A large body of literature from prior to the 21st century is now going to have to be rewritten.

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18 Jan 2012, 11:27 pm

Dox47 wrote:

blauSamstag wrote:

I ret*d some fermentation tonight.

Pizza dough? Bagels?

Pale Ale.

Cold shock after 15 days conditioning.

I did spend much of the weekend slinging ret*d pizza dough tho.

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