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23 Jan 2012, 8:12 pm

“Country club conservatives Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney”
Master_Pedant, didn’t you start a “Country club conservatives thread” like this for Herman Caine a few months ago? Canadian politics must be awfully dry and boring for you to take such and interest in ours, bless your heart.

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You threaten violence or civil war, I say bring it on. Liberals can own guns too you know.


Yes, they can but they have to have a conservative to show them which end to put the bullets in.



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23 Jan 2012, 8:19 pm

Raptor wrote:
“Country club conservatives Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney”
Master_Pedant, didn’t you start a “Country club conservatives thread” like this for Herman Caine a few months ago? Canadian politics must be awfully dry and boring for you to take such and interest in ours, bless your heart.

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You threaten violence or civil war, I say bring it on. Liberals can own guns too you know.


Yes, they can but they have to have a conservative to show them which end to put the bullets in.


Tell that to liberals - and gun enthusiasts - William Burroughs and Hunter S. Thompson, who loved their right to bare arms, and who loved shooting. The notion that liberals don't know their way around fire arms is a conservative wet dream.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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23 Jan 2012, 8:49 pm

Raptor wrote:
“Country club conservatives Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney”
Master_Pedant, didn’t you start a “Country club conservatives thread” like this for Herman Caine a few months ago? Canadian politics must be awfully dry and boring for you to take such and interest in ours, bless your heart.


And since that time, you're debating and observational skills haven't improved at all. People bordering imperial powers tend to take interest in them, btw, for obvious reasons of weight and influence. America's clusterf*ck of a housing market sank the global economy (under Dubya's supervision), after all.


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23 Jan 2012, 9:16 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
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“Country club conservatives Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney”
Master_Pedant, didn’t you start a “Country club conservatives thread” like this for Herman Caine a few months ago? Canadian politics must be awfully dry and boring for you to take such and interest in ours, bless your heart.


And since that time, you're debating and observational skills haven't improved at all. People bordering imperial powers tend to take interest in them, btw, for obvious reasons of weight and influence. America's clusterf*ck of a housing market sank the global economy (under Dubya's supervision), after all.


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And since that time, you're debating and observational skills haven't improved at all.


What did you expect out of a churlish American bully? :twisted:

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People bordering imperial powers tend to take interest in them, btw, for obvious reasons of weight and influence. America's clusterf*ck of a housing market sank the global economy (under Dubya's supervision), after all.


Yep, those American b@stards are at it again!
Maybe you should move down here, become a citizen and voter, and show us uncouth hicks how it's done.
No, on the other hand DON'T. My vote can only cancel out one democrat vote at a time and the list is already long enough.

And thanks once again for reminding me that I’m part of an “Imperial Power”. :king:



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23 Jan 2012, 9:27 pm

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The idea that nobody ever has to sacrifice anything for anyone else is absurd. You're old enough that you were alive during WWII. The young men who were drafted into the military and required to risk their lives offered a much greater sacrifice to the common good than any amount of tax money you've ever been forced to pay. To justify coerced sacrifice in one instance and not the other is inconsistent.


I believe those guys were fighting for themselves and their families.

Also they did not want to lose in front of their buddies and be thought cowards.

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23 Jan 2012, 9:30 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
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“Country club conservatives Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney”
Master_Pedant, didn’t you start a “Country club conservatives thread” like this for Herman Caine a few months ago? Canadian politics must be awfully dry and boring for you to take such and interest in ours, bless your heart.


And since that time, your debating and observational skills haven't improved at all. People bordering imperial powers tend to take interest in them, btw, for obvious reasons of weight and influence. America's clusterf*ck of a housing market sank the global economy (under Dubya's supervision), after all.


Fixed. It would have been even more ironic if Raptor's "observation" skills had spotted this.

Also, our politics are pretty boring nowadays, we have a Harper majority government doing whatever it wants anyways. -.-



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23 Jan 2012, 9:33 pm

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Also they did not want to lose in front of their buddies and be thought cowards.

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That's a pretty neurotypical way of thinking.



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23 Jan 2012, 9:35 pm

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Also they did not want to lose in front of their buddies and be thought cowards.

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That's a pretty neurotypical way of thinking.


Most of these guys were NTs, yes?

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23 Jan 2012, 9:40 pm

I would assume so, yes.

But I highly doubt that's what factored in their decision to do battle.



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23 Jan 2012, 10:27 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
Raptor wrote:
“Country club conservatives Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney”
Master_Pedant, didn’t you start a “Country club conservatives thread” like this for Herman Caine a few months ago? Canadian politics must be awfully dry and boring for you to take such and interest in ours, bless your heart.


And since that time, you're debating and observational skills haven't improved at all. People bordering imperial powers tend to take interest in them, btw, for obvious reasons of weight and influence. America's clusterf*ck of a housing market sank the global economy (under Dubya's supervision), after all.


And anyway, Cain was just the token black guy at the country club.



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23 Jan 2012, 10:43 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLAldSpMJSo[/youtube]


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23 Jan 2012, 11:55 pm

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLAldSpMJSo[/youtube]


I never watched the show, but now I'm beginning to wish that I had.

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24 Jan 2012, 12:08 am

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Tell that to liberals - and gun enthusiasts - William Burroughs and Hunter S. Thompson, who loved their right to bare arms, and who loved shooting. The notion that liberals don't know their way around fire arms is a conservative wet dream.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I would be comfortable saying most liberals don't know their way around firearms. Sure, there are exception, but they are just that, exceptions to a general trend. If anything, gun ownership is often the gateway to rejecting liberalism as once you've got one of the things in your hand and realize just how much of what liberals say about guns is BS, it really forces you to start looking for other things they haven't been straight about. This is especially common among gun culture 2.0 members who didn't grow up hunting and shooting, but rather came to it later on their own. These people are the most likely to turn libertarian rather than conservative, at least in my experience.


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24 Jan 2012, 12:18 am

Dox47 wrote:
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Tell that to liberals - and gun enthusiasts - William Burroughs and Hunter S. Thompson, who loved their right to bare arms, and who loved shooting. The notion that liberals don't know their way around fire arms is a conservative wet dream.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I would be comfortable saying most liberals don't know their way around firearms. Sure, there are exception, but they are just that, exceptions to a general trend. If anything, gun ownership is often the gateway to rejecting liberalism as once you've got one of the things in your hand and realize just how much of what liberals say about guns is BS, it really forces you to start looking for other things they haven't been straight about. This is especially common among gun culture 2.0 members who didn't grow up hunting and shooting, but rather came to it later on their own. These people are the most likely to turn libertarian rather than conservative, at least in my experience.


Again, I think you're generalizing. I've shot my share of guns, and I'm still as liberal as they get.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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24 Jan 2012, 12:39 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
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Tell that to liberals - and gun enthusiasts - William Burroughs and Hunter S. Thompson, who loved their right to bare arms, and who loved shooting. The notion that liberals don't know their way around fire arms is a conservative wet dream.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I would be comfortable saying most liberals don't know their way around firearms. Sure, there are exception, but they are just that, exceptions to a general trend. If anything, gun ownership is often the gateway to rejecting liberalism as once you've got one of the things in your hand and realize just how much of what liberals say about guns is BS, it really forces you to start looking for other things they haven't been straight about. This is especially common among gun culture 2.0 members who didn't grow up hunting and shooting, but rather came to it later on their own. These people are the most likely to turn libertarian rather than conservative, at least in my experience.


Again, I think you're generalizing. I've shot my share of guns, and I'm still as liberal as they get.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


You're both providing examples and counter-examples on the basis of anecdotal evidence.


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24 Jan 2012, 12:43 am

Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Tell that to liberals - and gun enthusiasts - William Burroughs and Hunter S. Thompson, who loved their right to bare arms, and who loved shooting. The notion that liberals don't know their way around fire arms is a conservative wet dream.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I would be comfortable saying most liberals don't know their way around firearms. Sure, there are exception, but they are just that, exceptions to a general trend. If anything, gun ownership is often the gateway to rejecting liberalism as once you've got one of the things in your hand and realize just how much of what liberals say about guns is BS, it really forces you to start looking for other things they haven't been straight about. This is especially common among gun culture 2.0 members who didn't grow up hunting and shooting, but rather came to it later on their own. These people are the most likely to turn libertarian rather than conservative, at least in my experience.


The three biggest gun nuts I know (and myself) are all extremely Liberal and would like to see concealed carry allowed in Canada.


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