Is eating your dead pet considered uncivilized?

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Is eating your dead pet considered uncivilized?

Yes, The man should be arrested and tortured	5%	[ 2 ]
Yes but the man should not be penalized.	19%	[ 7 ]
It depends on the culture.	19%	[ 7 ]
I find it disturbing but not necessarily uncivilized.	27%	[ 10 ]
I don't consider it to be uncivilized.	14%	[ 5 ]
Please pass the dog meat father!	16%	[ 6 ]

Total votes : 37

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29 Jan 2012, 12:12 am

Tequila wrote:

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The only meat I can see as odd would be human meat.

...which is how the Italian cannibal films came to be so popular.

People are sick. It's just a fact of life.

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29 Jan 2012, 12:18 am

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I see no difference between a cow and a fluffy kitten aww. Hypocrisy at its finest!

The difference is that cats befriended us. They sought human company, voluntarily lived in our ancestor's settlements, and kept our fields and granaries rodent-free without asking for anything in return, other than a cozy place in a barn. We ought to honor this mutually beneficial relationship, imho.

We have no social contract or agreement of this sort with livestock. We caught them and enslaved them. We are predators and they are prey. While cats and cows are technically both animals (so are humans btw), our relationship to them is quite different. Almost as different as our relationship to our own conspecifics versus food animals.

That's why we punish cruelty against cats and dogs. A person who would kill a cat -- a member of an allied species -- in cold blood is very likely to do the same to a human. In fact, most sociopaths start their gruesome careers by killing pets. People who don't honor the social contract of society with our beloved pets don't play by the rules and pose a danger. That also goes for eating cats and dogs, imho.

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29 Jan 2012, 12:20 am

CrazyCatLord wrote:

That also goes for eating cats and dogs, imho.

What about lickle wabbits? 'Cos I've eaten those.

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29 Jan 2012, 12:23 am

Social contract? I never signed any contract.

I wouldn't personally slaughter a cat (I like cats, I have two) but I don't see the issue with eating one. If I remember correctly, I actually have once, at an Asian restaurant in New York.

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29 Jan 2012, 1:57 am

When you think about it, eating a dog that's already dead might be more civilized than killing another animal to eat.

For most people, though, it would require a disturbing level of emotional detachment to be able to eat what was a family pet.

In any case, there is never a need for ridicule. That never solves anything.

The neighbor's ridicule is the one thing in this story I might consider "uncivilized".

(Although, that word in itself is judgmental. It's basically a way of justifying prejudice.)

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29 Jan 2012, 2:12 am

The Fore people in Papua New Guinea practiced ritual cannibalism out of respect for their dead relatives. Of course, that did lead to the Kuru prion disease.... so maybe it depends on culture, but some cultural practices are ill-advisable...

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29 Jan 2012, 3:10 am

It's like consensual incest - while not inherently unethical because there is no harm done, I would still frown upon it and most people probably would as well.

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29 Jan 2012, 3:17 am

donnie_darko wrote:

It's like consensual incest - while not inherently unethical because there is no harm done, I would still frown upon it and most people probably would as well.

Both illegal and legal kinds?

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29 Jan 2012, 3:20 am

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It's like consensual incest - while not inherently unethical because there is no harm done, I would still frown upon it and most people probably would as well.

Slightly different. Incest can lead to deformed children.

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29 Jan 2012, 3:22 am

abacacus wrote:

Incest can lead to deformed children.

Often though it doesn't.

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29 Jan 2012, 3:22 am

abacacus wrote:

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It's like consensual incest - while not inherently unethical because there is no harm done, I would still frown upon it and most people probably would as well.

Slightly different. Incest can lead to deformed children.

True, but by that argument, people with genetic tendency towards mental illness shouldn't be allowed to have sex with each other either.

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29 Jan 2012, 3:24 am

Also true (on both counts).

I suppose in that light, consensual incest should not be illegal.

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29 Jan 2012, 3:25 am

abacacus wrote:

I suppose in that light, consensual incest should not be illegal.

In a lot of cases though it can be debatable whether it is truly consensual. A father having sex with his daughter, for instance?

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29 Jan 2012, 3:27 am

Tequila wrote:

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I suppose in that light, consensual incest should not be illegal.

In a lot of cases though it can be debatable whether it is truly consensual. A father having sex with his daughter, for instance?

Assuming she was of the legal age of consent, I would have to say it should be legal. Nasty in my opinion, but if it is truly consensual, it should be legal.

My skin is crawling a little after saying that :lol:

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29 Jan 2012, 3:34 am

abacacus wrote:

Nasty in my opinion, but if it is truly consensual, it should be legal.

However would you be able to tell?

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29 Jan 2012, 3:36 am

Tequila wrote:

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Nasty in my opinion, but if it is truly consensual, it should be legal.

However would you be able to tell?

How can you tell if any sex is consensual?

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