Pagan aspies?

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I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I did a quick search on Zoroastrianism - very interesting.

I am a Christian, but I did date someone who was Pagan, but this was a long time ago. Speaking of Pagans, did any of you attend a religious based elementary, middle or high school? If so how did you like it? The school could be Catholic, Baptist, or any other Christian faiths.

Thanks

Well, i do like historical stuff.And i admire my ancestors, i am able to write and read in runes (Year 1000 to 1050) and have made a talisman for myself and a female friend. I also like herb medicine and acupuncture. I also know where to place runes according to Sigdrifamål. They are Victory runes,runes of protection, thought runes,runes against poison, runes of delivery/labor,runes of thought and runes of healing.

I do not believe in god, or gods in a traditional sense and i am skeptic to all religion and anything that smells of cults. I do belive in Karma.

On the other hand, there is so much we dont know about the universe and the world.
Perhaps there is a afterlife, i really dont know..

I'm a Celtic pagan, I was raised as a christian but i've always identified more with the myths, legends and folk tales of my Irish ancestors than anything in the bible. I don't believe in organised religion, it's more of a spiritual thing.

I'm into the pentachoron.

I was considering starting a thread asking about others' interest in paganism and druidry, but came upon this one and thought, why not revive it instead of starting over.

I have been a lifelong adamant atheist devoted to Western Enlightenment values like rationalism and empiricism, but I've started to realize lately that I may be missing out on something that gives more meaning to human experience. I'm not sure I "believe" anything in the sense that some people describe-- I just don't think my mind has that specific ability for whatever reason, so an intense faith in something explicitly supernatural is not really in my nature, and I'm definitely not into witchcraft because it overextends my suspension of disbelief. However, I am coming to grips with the idea that there is an irrational part *of me* which has been repressed, and studying pagan and animist lore and ritual seems to help give that part of me a framework and an outlet.

I am considering the path of druidry, because I like the openness of the definition and the fact that it allows solitary practitioners to choose what works for them without committing to a dogma. I like the idea of honoring a combination of gods/goddesses, the spirits of nature and the land, and ancestors, all representing different archetypes or influences that means something to me. I think that meditating on all the forms of life around me and the cycle of the seasons with its metaphorical ramifications is a great way to address my alienation and help me experience my deeper roots in the world, regardless of my disconnect from this particular society. I'm not cut out for organized religion because I don't desire a creed or commandments, and I wouldn't be comfortable expressing my spirituality in a social environment. I'm just too much of a loner/outsider and I feel that druidry speaks to that characteristic.

I only have one rule for myself when it comes to spirituality, and that's that it stays separate from my rational judgments and opinions. That might sound strange but it's what works for me. That means when I pray, do a ritual, or feel a spiritual experience, I do not allow myself to doubt or question it, but take it at face value and enjoy whatever benefit I feel it offers without regard to its objective veracity. In the way that, as a more general philosophy, some people posit the compatibility of religion and science as explaining different kinds of truths, I see the role of the rational and the spiritual/intuitive as complementary in my own life. The tension between my intuitive and analytical modes of knowing helps to balance me and achieve what DBT teachers like to call "wise mind."

I really like the way that you put this and I feel much the same way Glad to know someone has similar thoughts.

To me I have no problem with love prayers even if an elaborate ritual is performed. But the idea of casting a love spell thus subjecting someone to psychic attack seems unethical to me.

I have a lot of personal experience with the magical reality. I'm not pagan in the sense that my practice is not Earth centered, but to self. I am pagan in that I know in over 100 deities. I can't say I believe in them since I know they exist, it's an experience I can't deny. I've channeled them and shared my body with their consciousnesses and wrote down a grimoire with seven distinct paths which is now over 500 pages long with no prior knowledge of how magic works or ritual structure, but the system given to me works very well. I can't go into details here, because I use magic for bad things, since I can do good with my hands, no need for spells there.

I'm not sure what the mechanics of magic are or if it's string theory or quantum physics or whatever laws magic and the mind go by, but I've had results well above probability. It's easy to prove bad stuff by casting a death spell and having someone die, but I'll never do that again to prove a point, so don't ask me to prove magic is real, because it's dangerous to cast that sort of stuff with tangible and recordable results. It hurts people and I'm trying not to do that again, because I've hurt too many trying to convince skeptic in the past.

I sometimes participate in public rituals performed by some of the pagan groups in my area, but that's been dropping off. I want to take it further, but it's hard to do so when people know after some time that I'm not like them. People aren't as open as they claim to be and the subconscious deceit turns me off.

From what I've experienced with magic is that it's simply a tool. Karma is human reaction to your deeds, if no one knows what you did and you hold no guilt, you'll can do anything you want with magic. I have noticed that my rituals fail if I don't have total faith in them, but when I have absolute faith and believe totally in my magic, the results are fast to happen. You have to pour your energy into the ritual or whatever form your magic takes for there to be results, that's why skeptics never get anything when they cast a spell.

I think that most of the people I have contacted agree with the adage "Do no harm" which is basically "Thou Shalt not Kill". However the concept of the love spell can be tempting because it promises that no harm will occur and is considered to be harmless Harry Potter fun. Unfortunately this opens the door to a psychic attack on the victim and that in and of itself makes the practice unethical. I think the reason that the love spell is used is because the caster feels that is the only way she can get her man. But I think rather the caster is simply unaware of other more ethical ways that she can use to win her love.

I have a few rules, but some of the cults whose information was passed to me by my sources (spiritual beings) have no rules and boast that they should even be abused. There is a high you get from eating, doing drugs, but the high you get from casting bad magic is a whole new beast, it's like an orgasm without the sex. There's been times I had to step back for several months to to let it sink in. I justified it as testing my work by removing threats to my safety and trying to sell a working product. After several gruesome events related to my spell casting had taken place I had to step back and actually consider sealing my powers in a crystal and tossing it into the ocean.

When it comes to a love spell, I'd rather cast a earthquake spell and collapse my own house, before I go near a love spell. The things I heard about that type of magic are extremely damaging. Love is the strongest emotion and to work with in magic an thus is the hardest to create with a spell. I personally believe that only fear can be created because it's a simple and low frequency. Love is the highest of emotions and can't be created to my knowledge with magic. The few love spell in my tradition are for sexual lust and desire. True love isn't something I can create and I believe it's something that no witch, wizard or sorcerer can create.

Forcing your will upon others isn't love, it's just greed. They really should call love spells, lust spells, because love isn't created when they are cast. The usual results of a "lust spell" aka love spell is usually suicide since the victim of it can feel the manipulation being imposed into their mind.

The "Do no harm" in all pagan traditions also covers imposing your will over another being. That's why most spells are written to ask for something rather than ordering it. They use a lot of "We ask you to join us in this rite" instead of "We call upon you to enter this rite". Magic in paganism is about mutual respect for the consciousnesses taking part in your working. Yeah you're no supposed to kill, but it's a lot deeper than that. Magic, for the most part is about respecting all life, which has been stated here already, but it's not really noticed since other view point no matter how extreme seem to still follow that.

Since my path has no respect for life, I have to turn to Paganism to incorporate some of their practices into what I was given by my sources. I can do anything my grimoire has a spell for, but it's up to me to have the responsibility to not destroy myself and become corrupted. So far I consider myself walking on a knife's edge, I can still go either way.